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Old 01-08-2014, 10:06 AM   #1
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Jumping to dock ????

I keep reading about people jumping on to the dock from a boat while docking.



Time to fess up.

IMO there have to have been some experiences worth sharing.

All I have to say, If you can't brag about it, call it experience.
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Old 01-08-2014, 10:16 AM   #2
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I keep reading about people jumping on to the dock from a boat while docking.



Time to fess up.

IMO there have to have been some experiences worth sharing.

All I have to say, If you can't brag about it, call it experience.

We are Yachtsmen..

We step with flowing purpose...

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We are Yachtsmen..

We step with flowing purpose...

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"A gentleman will walk but never run (jump)"
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Old 01-08-2014, 10:49 AM   #5
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Okay tough bunch here.

How many of you or your jump, fly, levitate, whatever to the dock while docking?

Aboard Salty Dog at least two line are secured prior to the feet meet of the dock 99.9% of the time.

Who else follows a similar plan as me?
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How many of you or your jump, fly, levitate, whatever to the dock while docking?
Gentlemen of my age have long ago given up the sport of jumping. We just kind of gently ease ourselves to the dock, taking great care. :-)
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We only step off. The Coot's deck is approximately the same level as the floating docks around here. We usually tie the springline between the two side cleats first, thus controlling fore and aft movement and holding the boat to the dock, then bow and stern lines. We step off to tie the lines. Don't want to lean out of the boat to attempt tying off before getting onto the dock. The helsman's duty is to keep the boat snug to the dock as the person steps off with the springline, using propwalk and bow thruster if needed.



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Since I'm running the boat, my wife is the first to step onto the dock. She doesn't "jump" and I wouldn't either. If you can't step onto the dock while holding onto something steady, you're not docking correctly.
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I tell my crew to not jump on the dock under any circumstances. It is my job to bring the boat along side the dock. They are not to step off until a line is secured, and I say so. They can never know when I decide to move the boat one way or another. Jumping is just not a good practice.
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I tell my crew to not jump on the dock under any circumstances. It is my job to bring the boat along side the dock. They are not to step off until a line is secured, and I say so. They can never know when I decide to move the boat one way or another. Jumping is just not a good practice.
Yes, also our policy.

We also have a policy to NEVER stand on the swim platform while docking. A friend of mine once witnessed someone slipping off a platform and getting killed by the prop. That sticks in my mind.
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Jumping or simply getting ready to jump from a boat can have some interesting results. Sorry about my written word .


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Okay tough bunch here.

Aboard Salty Dog at least two line are secured prior to the feet meet of the dock 99.9% of the time.
How do you attach the lines to the dock before anyone steps onto the dock? Lasso?
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How do you attach the lines to the dock before anyone steps onto the dock? Lasso?
In a way yes. I leave one end loose and the other end tied off on the midship cleat. All that has to be done is throw the line over the cleat and tie off the loose end, either pulling the boat closer or using the line as a spring and pulling her closer with the engines. Nobody need leave the boat until I'm alongside.
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In a way yes. I leave one end loose and the other end tied off on the midship cleat. All that has to be done is throw the line over the cleat and tie off the loose end, either pulling the boat closer or using the line as a spring and pulling her closer with the engines. Nobody need leave the boat until I'm alongside.
+1. I leave 4 spring lines attached to the midship cleats in line holders attached to the rails. Always ready. On the East Coast we have many fixed docks. Usually on those we can lay to boat right against a piling. They can be a big help in springing in difficult situation.
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Daddyo, I've done that when single-handed.
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To answer the OPs original question...

I grew up with boats. The only time I didn't own one was when I was in the navy. My first boat was a rowboat (camouflage aluminum, yeah baby!), my second boat was a Coleman canoe. Getting on and off those boats as a youth with a Labrador Retriever taught me more about vector diagrams than any physics course did. There is an immediate and consequential learning curve. It is amazing that either of us had our teeth.

The rule (or standard, really), of course, is that no one on the boat jumps for the dock. I have a wife, two kids and a dog. All, except my daughter, have jumped for the dock at one time. The dog, in his defense, really had to pee. My daughter is either a slow learner or a quick learner; I'm not sure.

As far as the lassoing of cleats goes; ever see a bullrail?
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As far as the lassoing of cleats goes; ever see a bullrail?
We have one of the old EZ-Dockers, which I don't believe you can get anymore. A bent piece of stainless steel encased in hard rubber with a 50' line attached. Shaped somewhat like a hook with a few hard angles. Anyway, with bull rails my wife secures the bitter end to the midship cleat and tosses the EZ-Docker over the bull rail. Pulls, and it grabs EVERY SINGLE TIME. Then just idle in fwd or reverse to bring the boat up to dock. Step off.

She's also become quite good at lassoing cleats. Well, more like "looping" them. But she's pretty good, with around a .700 batting average.

I will admit to jumping a few times. But that's all I'll admit to!
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We have one of the old EZ-Dockers, which I don't believe you can get anymore.
Dang. I meant to buy one of those.
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Since I'm running the boat, my wife is the first to step onto the dock. She doesn't "jump" and I wouldn't either. If you can't step onto the dock while holding onto something steady, you're not docking correctly.
Absolutely agree + docklines are handed, never, ever thrown.
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Comical...while jumping to the dock in the commercial world is commonplace...leaping is the debate between the experienced and the inexperienced captains and crew.....
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