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Old 11-22-2012, 07:13 AM   #21
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Pau Hana, what is the wood on the lighter colored cabinetry? It appears to be Sen or more commonly known here as Japanese Ash. Looks great.
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Old 11-22-2012, 03:00 PM   #22
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Pineapple girl,
Surveyors as a rule want to justify their existance and will find FAULT when none is there.
I carried 3, large not the "bar b q" style propane tanks on the back deck of my P/h, see the avatar pic, they were there from new in 1981 and when I pur the boat in 85 and still there when I sold 25 yrs later. NOT in a locker, and NEVER a word from a surveyor and it was surveyd MANY TIMES.
They were in the open and there were the regular scuppers overboard so if a leak the gas was gone.
I had a gas stove, refrigerator, freezer and bar b q grill all running off of those tanks.
My experience and YMMV
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Old 11-22-2012, 03:09 PM   #23
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[QUOTE=Pineapple Girl;114109]Hmm am I being paranoid to worry about putting it in the area behind the steering area? The area I am thinking of is what we call "the brow". My concern is that there are holes (wire chases) in the floor of that area that open into the saloon. Is there a chance of propane leaking into the saloon? Sorry if I am being ignorant. We have one locker in the flybridge that is completly sealed off but there is no drain. It seems about the right size for two propane bottles. Not sure if that was what it was meant for. But it seems a bit of a long run for a propane line to the galley so maybe it just "is what it is" no purpose intended for it.

you are very right to be concerned. C3H8 is heavier than air and will run downhill like water. Think of it as water and design your propane locker accordingly Make sure it has a drainage path overboard not into the bilge even if by a round about way and install combustionable gas dectectors just in case. Diesel is a very safe fuel but get it burning via a little propane and u have a real situation
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Old 11-22-2012, 03:38 PM   #24
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Pau Hana, what is the wood on the lighter colored cabinetry? It appears to be Sen or more commonly known here as Japanese Ash. Looks great.
Thanks, Don! The previous owner told us it was white ash, and it looks to be original. They also did abreast job of keeping the boat in tip-top shape, so things are more maintenance than repair.
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Old 11-22-2012, 07:17 PM   #25
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you are very right to be concerned. C3H8 is heavier than air and will run downhill like water. Think of it as water and design your propane locker accordingly Make sure it has a drainage path overboard not into the bilge even if by a round about way and install combustionable gas dectectors just in case. Diesel is a very safe fuel but get it burning via a little propane and u have a real situation
It is heavier than air but not as dense as water....outside it mixes quickly with air and is carried away.

That's why all the "old" installs have not resulted in explosions yet...it is a bazzilion in one chance that a propane bottle under the flybridge (with raceways sealed and a vent or two) would ever cause an explosion.
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Old 11-22-2012, 09:13 PM   #26
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It is heavier than air but not as dense as water....outside it mixes quickly with air and is carried away.

That's why all the "old" installs have not resulted in explosions yet...it is a bazzilion in one chance that a propane bottle under the flybridge (with raceways sealed and a vent or two) would ever cause an explosion.
You don't know that. There are boat explosions every year many of which the cause is not determined.

I would rather excercise caution than take on unneccessary risk wouldn't you?
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Old 11-23-2012, 06:22 AM   #27
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I would rather excercise caution than take on unneccessary risk wouldn't you?


Sounds like the "build a bunker" show on TV has a new addict!

LIFE is about risk , just look at the stats on being in a car.
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Old 11-23-2012, 06:43 AM   #28
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There are boat explosions every year many of which the cause is not determined.
Got any cites to contribute to that claim?
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Old 11-23-2012, 06:46 AM   #29
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just to be clear...that isn't a quote from me...
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Oh darn, I apologize for that - I snagged the text from the wrong post.

It was most certainly from Mr. 45.
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Old 11-23-2012, 11:43 AM   #31
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Got any cites to contribute to that claim?
I believe i said that. No, not off the top of my head but i read this in the BoatUS news letter. I have my boat insurance through them and they send out a really good newsletter with tips and statisics to encourage boating safety i guess.
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Old 11-28-2012, 12:22 AM   #32
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It's a 12v LED strip from Fisheries Supply- I installed 2 in the galley and its daylight bright in there now! AND, it draws a fraction of the amperage of the old fixture.
I'm getting so many good ideas from you for improvements to my old boat and I'm mesmerized by the idea of a "daylight bright" galley. Can you use dimmer switches with those 12v LED strip lights?
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Old 11-28-2012, 12:31 AM   #33
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Sure, you can find them at most of the LED supplier sites.
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