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Old 08-24-2012, 02:57 PM   #21
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Not to belabor this, and I suspect that competent yards in hurricane territory all do this as a matter of course, but if a yard tells you that chaining the stand pairs isn't necessary, they're wrong. A member of the Grand Banks Owners forum had his wood GB hauled and blocked for the winter in the Great Lakes area. The stands were not chained. A winter storm got the boat to moving a bit on the stands. The stands supporting the forward half of the boat began to "walk" and when they got far enough out the boat's motion became such that it fell over onto its side. There was so much damage the insurance company declared it a total loss.
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Old 08-24-2012, 02:57 PM   #22
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I'd ask for (and pay for) eight if you can. Six seems too few for a 40'.
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Old 08-24-2012, 04:47 PM   #23
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Since the hurricane cone includes Mississippi we are watching this with interest. Update, the Biloxi marina seems to not plan on cutting lines and pushing us away from the dock I am told. We were planning to head back to Madisonville' but new plan has been to red label/ Saturday 5 new docklines in and be ready to storm prep Sunday.
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Old 08-24-2012, 06:10 PM   #24
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I'd ask for (and pay for) eight if you can. Six seems too few for a 40'.
6 is enough normally for any boat that sits primarily on its keel....where I am in Jersey they survive 75 kot plus Nor'easter winds with 3 sets. The keel is where yards often scrimp...I've heard you should have one every 10 feet or so....especially if not on good concrete.
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Old 08-24-2012, 06:25 PM   #25
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Looks like we're catching a little bit of a break with Isaac's path. Sunday morn I'll be "spiderwebbing" TIME well wasted in the canal behind the house. My major concern is with the Island Gypsy that is for sale on this site's classifieds is 3 houses in from me. I don't think the owner's are anywhere near and I don't know if they are going to have anyone taking care of it as far as storm prep.
Thankfully I've just finished rebedding all the portholes.
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Old 08-24-2012, 11:28 PM   #26
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Old 08-24-2012, 11:59 PM   #27
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My boat has all the gear hauled below and I am up at 0930 for haulout after pumpout (in case the sh&@ hits the fan, better to be with less sh&@!). I will remove all canvas. Looks like 6 stands is all I get. LOTS of boats on this haul out and the Marina ordered ALL boats to vacate so they can pull the floating docks. This Marina learned its lesson in Ivan. Will photo post. Good luck Floridians..
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Old 08-25-2012, 07:12 AM   #28
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We just received this in an email from our insurance company. It does seem like good idea.

Hurricane Preparation:
If a Hurricane Watch or Warning is issued for your area by the
National Oceanic & Atmospheric Administration (NOAA), we will pay
50% of the cost up to a maximum of $1,000 for having your boat
moved by a professional, or for a professional haulout, or for the
professional execution of a hurricane plan. In addition to professional
moving or a professional haulout, covered expenses include, but
are not limited to, haulout, blocking, lashing to in-ground anchors,

powerwashing and relaunch.
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Old 08-25-2012, 08:47 AM   #29
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Nice. I opted for a much lower premium, but no extra stuff like that. TBH, even in NC, the math didn't work out for the higher premiums versus how often, on average, we would need to haul for a storm(s). So far, we have hauled once in 3 years for Irene. Even if I have to haul 3 times this year, I am still on the favorable side of the cash flow.
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Old 08-25-2012, 02:21 PM   #30
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well we just put up the shutters (what a pita,I'm getting rollups or accordians when I win the lottery). Boat is spun around to face the wind, patio crap brought in or tossed in pool, yard crap, trash cans brought in or secured. Tomorrow morn we'll do the final tieing of the boat, put the dinghy in the garage, and await the fury.
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Old 08-25-2012, 08:57 PM   #31
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Twiisted, your pylons look tall enough to handle any surge.. Just tend them as the storm passes.

We are all hauled out and pressure washed. I got 8 stands. Took 1 hour to load me in the slings and haul me to the hill and then block the Blue Heron. I took the opportunity to pressure wash and noticed that once again my bottom paint failure from the crappy job the sellers yard did has cost more time and money.. I went ahead and put a gallon of paint on the bottom to cover the areas that are flaking off.. (keep in mind this bottom "job" is only 3 months old.. anyways blocks applied and boat on the hard. Canvas stripped and waiting for the storm...
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Old 08-25-2012, 09:30 PM   #32
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We sold a lot of rope and fenders today. Even though we're at the edge of The Cone of Death, Miami boaters seem to be taking this seriously.
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Old 08-25-2012, 11:34 PM   #33
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Here at hurricane-less California, "my" boatyard chains the front and rear pairs of six stands. Three points of support are also underneath the keel.




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Old 08-26-2012, 09:51 PM   #34
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Isaac haulout

Blue Heron--what yard? I had mine hauled yesterday at Pelicans Perch. They probably have the highest ground of any around here.
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Old 08-27-2012, 06:17 AM   #35
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."especially if not on good concrete."

And on dirt ? with 6+ inches of rain ?

Better stay close to adjust as the ground softens.
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Old 08-27-2012, 12:11 PM   #36
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I moved my boat from my covered slip to an uncovered slip in the same marina on Friday. I'm concerned that a tidal surge due to the storm will lift the boat high enough to impact the overhead cover. I seem to be the only one in the marina taking precautions but Friday was a bit early and I only did it because I high tailed it out of town on Sunday. Anyway I'm glad it's done, there could be a race to find uncovered slips by today, and well I got mine.

The predicted storm surge greater than 3ft.
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Old 08-27-2012, 05:24 PM   #37
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My Insurance man says that statistically speaking, the least damaged boats during storms are the ones tethered to a dock at the residence where they can attended to. 2nd choice is hauled and on stands, where even the occasional punch in the nose ends up being a lot less damage than a sinking. Of course, if it ends up in the middle of a number 3 or more hurricane, statistics have a way of becoming as vague as insurance coverage.
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Old 08-27-2012, 05:36 PM   #38
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My Insurance man says that statistically speaking, the least damaged boats during storms are the ones tethered to a dock at the residence where they can attended to. 2nd choice is hauled and on stands, where even the occasional punch in the nose ends up being a lot less damage than a sinking.
That's good to know...but as in any real estate transaction...location...location...location.

Depends if there's storm surge or not, depends if the marina is built to withstand a decent storm surge, depends on the location of your house/canal....etc...etc

Srtatistics are great for generally speaking but when you apply them to a specific...good luck!

Insurance companies base their risks on 100,000s of thousands of units...I base my risk management on a unit of ONE!!!!
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Old 08-27-2012, 10:22 PM   #39
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I put about 1500' of line out today and will be riding this one out. Good luck to my fellow Nothern GOM'ers
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Old 08-28-2012, 06:00 PM   #40
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Isaac will finally be coming ashore this evening near Barataria Bay about 55 miles ESE of here, if that holds we'll be on the "good" side with more Northerly and NW winds which should lessen the tide surge, we'll see!
right now we are getting hit by the rain bands, light rain so far with 25 maybe 30 mph winds gusts Most of the stores were shut down by noon after the usual buying frenzy and a curfew will be in effect from 7PM till the morning.
Every politico from the President to the dog catcher has been on the tube milking the situation for what it is worth.,
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