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Old 04-22-2016, 09:01 PM   #1
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IPAD chartplotter

I currently run Nobletec VNS 11 on a laptop as my primary chartplotter. I have another laptop in the captains berth and an extra computer for backup.

Recently I purchased an Ipad mini 4 for personal use, that I really enjoy.

Doing some research, for fun really, I though I would experiment with a chartplotter app.

I bought Inavx after ready some positive reviews and confirming that it would work with an external GPS. It wasn't cheap at $50 bucks but was a fraction of a boat unit... This plotter was a poor choice for me. The charts are expensive! $300 every two years for the west coast of the US and Canada??? Too much. Also the charts are difficult to select and navigate. this would have improved with the learning curve but I was turned off by the price of the charts.

Chartplotter App. #2 was NobleTec Time Zero. The app was free and charts for the same area was $100. This software works seemlessly with an external gps and the charts are easy to navigate and it is easy to select charts to load for the regions you intend to visit.

Just adding my 2c. after being disappointed with Inavx...
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Old 04-22-2016, 09:21 PM   #2
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I, too, am not satisfied with iNavx.

Can the NobleTec Time Zero app import .kmz files? I have a lot of waypoints and routes in that format.
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I'm not sure if it will serve all of your particular needs but we really like the Garmin Bluechart Mobile.

Really easy and overlays weather radar and Activecaptain.

Wife and I greatly prefer this over the one that came as stock on the boat.
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I don't know if it does .kmz but you can convert them...
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FYI, I also added an external gps since my ipad was only wifi. Skypro xgps160. Picks up a signal inside the aluminum bridge of our boat. Interesting Glonass signal strength seem about equal to gps. It will be interesting to see how the signal works further north
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I'm not sure if it will serve all of your particular needs but we really like the Garmin Bluechart Mobile.

Really easy and overlays weather radar and Activecaptain.

Wife and I greatly prefer this over the one that came as stock on the boat.
Ditto. Love Garmin Bluechart.
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I run iSailor with an external Dual GPS. The PNW and Canadian charts are accurate and inexpensive. Also works with the iPhone as a backup or pocket plotter for the dingy.
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isailor is the go for ipad,iphone,ianything.


Once you have used isailor you wont bother with anything else.
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The New Amazon Fire is a great tablet , and its under $50.

Any way to use it and gov charts with a GPS stuck on?

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I agree with the comments re iSailor, but Navionics also goes well on iPad.
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Old 04-23-2016, 08:14 AM   #12
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I don't think Navionice does heading up , which I prefer.


I reckon the charts on isailor are clearer and are always downloaded so no internet required and, from memory, cheaper.


isailor..no brainer for me,and I have used the isailor from Whitsundays to Wilsons Prom and have found the charts to be amazingly accurate even through Great Sandy Straights and through the back way between Gold Coast and Morton Bay.


AIS overlay is vey good to.


I am a big fan
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Old 04-23-2016, 08:51 AM   #13
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iSailor was developed by Transas. They only use Transas charts. How many of you have heard of Transas let alone even knew they were a chart publisher? They're a company specializing in ship ECDIS systems. Their HQ is in Ireland but all their technology and development happens in Russia. I'd bet their commercial port charting is pretty good. Creeks off the beaten path? ...not so much.

Go to transas.com and see how much recreational exposure you see.

Jeppesen/C-Map (now a part of Navico), Navionics, and Garmin specialize in recreational charts. Each of them maintains their own chart portfolios. For the US, many products use the free NOAA RNC and ENC charts. NOAA's main concern is commercial ports and charts for military use although they've been doing much more recreational updating.

In my opinion, selecting a chartplotter display app shouldn't be based on the app. That changes easily. It should be based on the charts. So perhaps the user-interface of iSailor is attractive to some people. It's just the wrong place to start.

Personally, I prefer Jeppesen/C-Map and Garmin. And it's not because those 2 use ActiveCaptain. Navionics requested an ActiveCaptain license and I turned them down because of past experience with the company. For me, the honesty and integrity of the company matters too. But the Navionics app is pretty good and I couldn't fault anyone for using it.

The reason so many people love the Garmin app is because it has an excellent user-inteface, is obvious to use, and has exceptional charts. If the Garmin charts were crummy, you'd have a wonderful app that drove you into the rocks (!). Think about that when you consider iSailor.

And for what it's worth, iSailor approached us to advertise and pay us too. We thought it was the wrong thing for our user base so we rejected the offer.
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Navionics did add heading up in the last year or two.
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Gee it seems that someone is getting a bit "testy" about isailor.
I don't know what tie up you appear to have with Garmin or Navionics but it seems to me you must have one.


And I don't know about NOAA RNC and ENC charts or ECDIs or Active Captain for that matter, all I do know, from personal experience is that isailor has proven to me that its charts are as good or better than any of the charts I have used in Navionics or my Raymarine CMap charts ESPECIALLY in the backwaters of Australia.


It seems to me that if they bothered to get it right in Australia its pretty fare bet that they would be equally as good if not better in the rest of the world.


Furthermore on two occasions when I have wanted some questions answered they came back to me almost immediately via email with the answers. Admittedly they did seem to have quite Russianized English but the support was great compared to most.


For the money which is not much at all my advise to anyone wanting ipad navigation you would be stark raving mad not to try isailor.


All my friends use it now it is the cleanest simplest and probably the cheapest way to go, I would say do yourself a favour and try it, its not difficult.


I think that this was the question first put in this thread.


You know the old saying "Don't knock till you've tried it"
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Another positive experience with Garmin Bluechart Mobile here. I use it on a full size iPad and it has been flawless. And I think it was like $29?

If I can use it, it's easy to use! (My new tag line).
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We've been using navionix last 2 years as a back up and love it. Charts and ease of use very good.
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Navionics on a new iPad. Better than my Standard Horizon plotter, faster, touch screen, heading up, built in gps. Just spent $100 to upgrade the SH plotter but now I think I'm going to just keep it for backup for the iPad. Need a nice mount so I can use it vertically and swivel. Oh yes, iPad is sunlight viewable. Haven't tried to dim it for night yet. Plotters are history.
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Gee it seems that someone is getting a bit "testy" about isailor.
Not really. Why does giving an opinion based on adding some facts that most people probably didn't know considered to be "testy"?

Yes, I have a relationship with nearly every marine electronics manufacturer. But I'm also a cruising boater and I'll call 'em as I see 'em.

If iSailor is working great for you in Australia, great. Perhaps the Garmin app would be even better. Do you know?
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I considered the Navionics app, but the web site referred to a subscription service but didn't mention the cost. How much is the subscription and what do you get for it?
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