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Old 10-03-2012, 08:41 PM   #21
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Greetings,
Mr. Breeze. You're allowed a pistol in Canada?
Caught! I'll rephrase it: my wife likes my little pistol.. haha!

The only gun I own is a 30:06 and it isn't or ever will be on the boat..

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Old 10-04-2012, 05:40 AM   #22
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For most folks damage to the interior of the boat is a concern.

Much Ungood to repel borders and have holes in the boat.

The lightest bird short with an open choke will do the least damage.

For pistols the Glasser Safety Slug is light bird shot , instead of lead.

At close range both will puncture a perp, but with less carry on damage .

AS the USMC sez , "aimed fire is accurate fire".
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Old 10-07-2012, 10:39 AM   #23
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Bullshit? Not even close, Keith. It's easy to talk bravado from the comfort of our living rooms- it's another thing entirely at 2am when there's a suspected intruder onboard and you're groggy. A shotgun is a very effective weapon to repel boarders- just point and shoot in the general direction of the noise if needed.

Tell me truthfully that you wouldn't think twice if you heard that awful noise in the dark...
Whaaaat? I said hearing someone rack a round into the shotgun's breach was bullshit. Did you even read my entire post?
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I hear what you guys are saying about the 12 gauge. Someday I may wish I had one.

I'm concerned that in the 2 am grogginess or to much rum I will blow away the yorkie.
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"I'm concerned that in the 2 am grogginess or to much rum I will blow away the yorkie."

Aren't we all ?

Simplest is to simply load 2 blanks as first rounds .

If you need to get someones attention , a blank is loud enough.

When you really need live ammo , holding the trigger and racking the 2 blanks and getting to the real killing load is really quick.

Most blanks do have enough oomph to cycle an automatic shotgun.

I have a 20Ga for the 100lb bride , and a High Standard Bullpup for the nice flashlight it comes with

Try it!!
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I've spent over 1,000 nights at anchor and never had a problem. My current boat is old and ugly so now I worry even less.
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Old 10-07-2012, 03:11 PM   #27
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We were boarded by teenagers one night at lock 23 on the Erie canal. I flipped on the spreader lights and went outside with a nightstick and a diving knife. They took off. My wife and 10 year old daughter had mace and frying pans at the ready. Don't mess with Jersey girls.

From that night on we pulled ourselves away from the dock with a side anchor and had trip lines running around the decks. If I had tacks I would have used them.

Again in Ottawa we were boarded at night. It was only a raccoon but he never knew what hit him.
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Old 10-08-2012, 06:10 AM   #28
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I've spent over 1,000 nights at anchor and never had a problem.

Not in Haiti!!!
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Old 10-08-2012, 06:57 AM   #29
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Actually the most useful gun on my boat has been a .177 cal pellet pistol. Nice and quiet, quite irritating to varioius critters.
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Do you feel, when you're lying there half awake, like someone just got on the boat when it rocked a bit?
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I don't want to start the weapons on board discussion, but do you consider the possibility of an unwanted border, and what would you do?
Military training has ingrained in me the idea of a weapon of opportunity. Fishing gaff seems to work OK.
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I've spent over 1,000 nights at anchor and never had a problem.

Not in Haiti!!!
We cruise for pleasure so if there's an area where we don't feel safe, we just don't go there.

There's a chance of an issue anywhere including in your own home but I would hate to go through life feeling I needed a loaded gun by my side 24/7.

Besides, if you are asleep and half drunk and the intruders are awake, armed, and expecting an encounter, how do you think it's going to turn out?
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We cruise for pleasure so if there's an area where we don't feel safe, we just don't go there.
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Besides, if you are asleep and half drunk and the intruders are awake, armed, and expecting an encounter, how do you think it's going to turn out?
Badly for the intruder. They often times aren't expecting a defensive home/boat owner.
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We cruise for pleasure so if there's an area where we don't feel safe, we just don't go there.

A boat is a target of oppertunity , (except off Somolia) .

When some kids or a sneak thief decides to target you is not that location sensitive.

Beggars along side or coming aboard IS more location sensitive.
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They make non-lethal loads for shotguns, for those who are interested. Me, I'm not going to bother warning anyone. They'll know they made a bad decisions when they get hit by the shot.
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Badly for the intruder. They often times aren't expecting a defensive home/boat owner.
You are missing my point. This guy (or guys) is awake, armed, and ready for what he is about to do. You are not expecting to be attacked, you may be asleep or half drunk and not fully ready for what is about to happen.

Now if you plan to stand watch and are awake and sober, that's a different story. You will probably come out on top.

Most of us would stay away from an area where we would feel the need to stay up all night to repel intruders.
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You are missing my point. This guy (or guys) is awake, armed, and ready for what he is about to do.
They're not really "ready" or expecting resistance. There had been two thugs from a neighboring county breaking into houses in the adjoining subdivision. One day after breaking into some homes and were heading back through the woods to the place they stay at were tackled by two work-at-home dads that had heard of the break-ins. They had previously scouted out the path these guys were taking to get there and back. The burgulars were armed, but not ready and not expecting to be attacked themselves.

My point is that the criminals aren't ready for resistance. So any they get is a surprise to them. Sometimes someone just yelling at them scares them off.


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You are not expecting to be attacked, you may be asleep or half drunk and not fully ready for what is about to happen.

At work maybe...

No, we can't be expected to be ready for anything all the time. But any resistance you put up will be more effective than none at all.
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We been living on the boat fore 15 years have not had anything stolen or intruder. Since the Eagle is old and ugly there are plenty of newer and fancier boats around, and we always have lights and the TV/music on, so it looks like somebody is on the boat or will be back shortly. Also our boat is high so people can not look into it, but they can see the flicker of the TV. We do not lock the vehicle and/or the boat either as there is really nothing of value worth taking. Please take our old stuff, so we can buy new stuff. Well look at it on the bright side at least the carried it off the boat for me! Besides if you shoot some one they will probable sue you, and then you have to sell the boat to pay for the legal expense, and/or end up in jail.

As mentioned before, we will install a Boat Nanny that has light and loud alarm. Boat Alarms - The BoatNanny - Boat Security System
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"Now if you plan to stand watch and are awake and sober, that's a different story. You will probably come out on top."

Murphygauges stand watch underway,

Sears stands watch at anchor.

With a slight touch of anything metal on the rail , the borders get what a 1200lb cow gets, A real surprise!!!!

Thieving boat bums probably do not have the training to remain silent.

Any one dumb enough to board a FL boat , or any of the other 30 or so free states that allow easy carry permits , should not be surprised at being repulsed with force.
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Anyone with a little training (muscle memory training like the military) can come out of a dead sleep, half in the bag and still pump 5 center mass. Proven time after time...read not too long ago some 92 year old former Air Force WWII vet woke up and popped a couple burglars... it's all about attitude and training.
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