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Old 04-20-2015, 01:24 PM   #41
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I buy Grand Banks Beige and haven't used it yet in it's pure form. I use it to mix w two other colors to get my own color .. Three Can Tan mostly.

Paint varnish or stain wise we haven't touched our interior teak. We have lots of windows and don't feel the boat is dark inside. Our inside teak looks great and never changes.
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Old 04-20-2015, 04:22 PM   #42
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I changed out all my interior bulbs with LEDs and was able to free up a breaker in my panel.
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Old 04-20-2015, 04:35 PM   #43
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A much more even balance of painted wood and varnished teak or mahogany would be more authentically traditional and more typical of wood boats from the early 1900's..
This is the way Grand Banks boats were until they started applying teak veneer to all or most of the interior bulkheads sometime in (I think) the 1980s. The bulkheads themselves are mahogany. For many years, Grand Banks Beige (the correct one) was used on the mahogany panels which is accented by bright-finished teak trim, doors, etc. This is the way our 1973 boat is.

It's a much nicer look than the later, more common all-teak (veneer) interior, which is not only darker, but since there's teak everywhere it becomes sort of like wallpaper--- there but not really seen.

First two photos are the aft cabin of our boat. The last two are from our copy of the sales brochure for our vintage of GB. This is how the boats looked when they left the factory (minus the model ). The main cabin of our boat is exactly like this in every respect except an AC/DC refrigerator/freezer has replaced the original ice box under the galley counter and a converted oil lamp hangs in place of the ceiling light over the table.
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I like the pained wall look much better to the all teak look as well. The all teak look is just to dark for the size of the space for me. The painted look seems cleaner and a bit more modern as well. Even though it's arguably retro.
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Wifey B: Why is the model dressed like that on a boat?
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Old 04-20-2015, 06:01 PM   #46
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Wifey B: Why is the model dressed like that on a boat?
Because it was 1974. People got dressed up to ride on an airplane, too. Today, every flight looks like it's deporting a bunch of homeless people to Detroit, even in business class.
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Sort of like Marin's. The Herreshoff look/style. Dark trim with white panels. Lightens dark interiors. Our old woodie had it. Much prefer it to the all teak interiors.
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Sort of like Marin's. The Herreshoff look/style. Dark trim with white panels. Lightens dark interiors. Our old woodie had it. Much prefer it to the all teak interiors.
Love that interior,Dave. I liked the exterior of that boat too.
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Because it was 1974. People got dressed up to ride on an airplane, too. Today, every flight looks like it's deporting a bunch of homeless people to Detroit, even in business class.
Wifey B: Oooppps....olden days. I wasn't born then.
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This is the way Grand Banks boats were until they started applying teak veneer to all or most of the interior bulkheads sometime in (I think) the 1980s. The bulkheads themselves are mahogany. For many years, Grand Banks Beige (the correct one) was used on the mahogany panels which is accented by bright-finished teak trim, doors, etc. This is the way our 1973 boat is.

It's a much nicer look than the later, more common all-teak (veneer) interior, which is not only darker, but since there's teak everywhere it becomes sort of like wallpaper--- there but not really seen.

First two photos are the aft cabin of our boat. The last two are from our copy of the sales brochure for our vintage of GB. This is how the boats looked when they left the factory (minus the model ). The main cabin of our boat is exactly like this in every respect except an AC/DC refrigerator/freezer has replaced the original ice box under the galley counter and a converted oil lamp hangs in place of the ceiling light over the table.
Very nice I'm temped to paint some of the larger (teak wallpaper) panels on my boat. But I worry the next person who might like to buy the boat from me will be an "anything wood is holy" person.
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Wifey B: Oooppps....olden days. I wasn't born then.

Yeah. You kids have a lot to learn......
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Ugh, these posts about painting natural wood are giving me an anxiety attack. Painting teak or mahogany - heck, the copper on the Statue of Liberty is kind of an uneven green, let's paint it. If God wanted fine wood to be painted, he would have had trees circulate latex primer instead of tree sap. Painted teak and mahogany - ought to be a felony.
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Yea and so do we Marin.
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Everybody's got an opinion.
One could also say if God wanted steel not to rust my car wouldn't have been painted. I design custom yacht interiors and custom furniture every working day of my life and wood is a means to an end for me. It gets bleached, stained, burnt, varnished, enameled or anything else that fits the look. It doesn't matter the species, walnut, epe, teak, fir, koa...whatever. god created trees but man created lumber for his creative needs
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Painted teak and mahogany - ought to be a felony.
There's mahogany and there's mahogany. The plywood used to make the bulkheads of boats like Grand Banks is very Plain Jane stuff. No figuring at all, just straight grain boring looking wood. It's good quality wood, but it's the same stuff in appearance that they use in places like China and the Philippines to make shipping crates. I've watched them being made at an aerospace maintenance and modification center in Xiamen, China. You wonder why use mahogany but over there it's readily available and dirt cheap.

Even with a varnish, oil, etc. finish it's really boring-looking wood in terms of it's appearance. In fact, what it would look like in a boat is an interior that's been painted a uniformly blah, cheap-looking brown color. Which is why it's either painted a real color on the earlier Grand Banks or covered with teak veneer on the later ones.

I'd probably not be inclined to paint teak veneer even if I wanted the painted panel look for the reason tegdesign mentioned a couple of posts ago. This is assuming it's nice teak veneer. This could affect the resale value if one was concerned about that. A lot of boat buyers these days seem to equate an all-teak interior with their image of a "real" boat.
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Ugh, these posts about painting natural wood are giving me an anxiety attack. Painting teak or mahogany - heck, the copper on the Statue of Liberty is kind of an uneven green, let's paint it. If God wanted fine wood to be painted, he would have had trees circulate latex primer instead of tree sap. Painted teak and mahogany - ought to be a felony.
God didn't peel the trees to make the veneer, man did. And latex actually is from trees.
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If this is veneer, I'm fooled/impressed.


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framing and louvres (solid lumber) The rest, probably even the teak and holly, would be nice quality veneer.
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If this is veneer, I'm fooled/impressed.
Teak veneer is real teak, it's just real thin teak. But in appearance, it can look no different than solid teak. The only thing you see with solid wood is the outside, which is the only thing you see with veneer.

Things like the door and panel frames and probably the door panels, louvers, etc. in your photo are most certainly solid teak. The veneer would just be used on the bulkhead surfaces and perhaps the flooring.

Given the price of teak these days, even plantation teak, veneer makes sense on the bulkheads, sidewalls, etc. if you want to keep the price of a boat even remotely competitive. Make all that stuff out of solid teak and the engine(s) start looking cheap by comparison.
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framing and louvres (solid lumber) The rest, probably even the teak and holly, would be nice quality veneer.
Yes, according to the builder it's "teak veneer with solid teak trim, doors and drawer fronts."
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