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pocket trawler complete with pocket firetruck?

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https://seattle.craigslist.org/sno/boa/d/bellingham-boat-trailer-mini-fire-truck/7048679628.html
 
Really cool boat, so glad the broker didn't junk up the ad with mundane details like tankage, draft and displacement.

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Greetings,
Mr. D. Interesting but not to my tastes. I see mention of fuel burn but no mention of fuel capacity (unless I missed it). So LRC but how long?
 
Donsan said:
Is this interesting or just normal boat porn?

https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1980/custom-tristar-lrc-trawler-3641200/
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Yes, she's an interesting boat. I looked at her a few years back when she was for sale. Upon close inspection I saw considerable evidence of water intrusion and reading the description of the deck construction I was concerned it would become a never ending money pit. Keep in mind that's my opinion only, I did not have her surveyed. I did drag a friend who is a shipwright along to have a look. He cautioned me about the water intrusion.

Another interesting detail, not well shown in the pics, is you go below via a stair way in the saloon landing you in what would have been the fish hold had she been finished as a commercial fish boat. From there to get to the engine room you go forward. And to get to the master state room you continue forward through the engine room. Arriving in the master you now have to climb a ladder to get in bed with not enough overhead to sit up in bed. I had no trouble with the concept of traveling through the engine room to arrive at the master cabin, I've been on work boats with similar setups. It encourages keeping a clean, odor free engine room! But to crawl into bed via a ladder and not be able to sit up in bed was a show stopper. It would not have been easy to change that with tankage underneath.

I do like boats built on work boat hulls and machinery. But in the end I couldn't get past the water intrusion and awkward bed arrangement.

Another interesting aspect to this is that if memory serves the wording in the description is exactly the wording in the listing when I looked at her years back. Reading between the lines all the mentioned upgrades were accomplished by the owner previous to the current seller. My impression is a great deal was spent on finishes, I'm not sure about systems and structure.

Also interesting is the asking price is the same as it was when I considered her. I'm sure she sold for a great deal less. The broker called me some weeks after I walked and let me know the owners needed her sold and would take any offer around $100K seriously. She sold a few weeks after that but I don't know for how much.
 
DS - I was going to say not generally to my likes... too cramped in several areas, fairly narrow beam for its length.

Then reading PB's previous first-hand knowledge of the boat - it quickly became absolutely not to my likes!
 
DS - I was going to say not generally to my likes... too cramped in several areas, fairly narrow beam for its length.

Then reading PB's previous first-hand knowledge of the boat - it quickly became absolutely not to my likes!
 
I’m not a big fan of asymmetric wide bodydeckhouses, but that would have added a comfortable two feet to this boat.
 
boatruptcy said:
https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/2005/vripack-69ft-steel-trawler-3614210/
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In my view, this is actually the nicest ever Vripack design in the 65ft size bracket. A truly capable, go-anywhere trawler/explorer, with huge internal volume, which can still be managed by two competent hands.


Unfortunately, this particular boat was built by a commercial shipyard in China, with some design changes made during the build. We had a look at it about 8 years ago when it was for sale, and gave it a pass.
 
makobuilders said:
Woolf, what were the major items that made you pass on the boat?
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Every time I see a boat over about 45 feet, the phrase "paid crew" or very dependable friends jumps into my head.

Even if you and your mate are 100% compatible and equally skilled, sometimes you will need another couple to bounce off ideas. IMO, any voyage lasting more than a week needs another couple, another stateroom and another head.
My N46 was about the right size. My current boat AT34 is a bit too small unless the other couple likes to sleep in the saloon, sleep and wake on my schedule or an agreement can be reached on 'hot bunking, (not wife nor husband swapping.)'
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OldDan1943 said:
Even if you and your mate are 100% compatible and equally skilled, sometimes you will need another couple to bounce off ideas.
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Funny, for us the ABOSLUTE limit for overnight guests is 2 nights. And while my lovely bride and I can be in the same room for weeks, the business of running the boat is all mine. She'll play human autopilot for a few minutes, lookout or throw a line at a fuel dock attendant but that's about it.

Size depends on what it is. Properly set up one can go quite large in this configuration. Our last was 42' (sail), the next one will be in the 50's (power).
 
woolf said:
In my view, this is actually the nicest ever Vripack design in the 65ft size bracket. A truly capable, go-anywhere trawler/explorer, with huge internal volume, which can still be managed by two competent hands.


Unfortunately, this particular boat was built by a commercial shipyard in China, with some design changes made during the build. We had a look at it about 8 years ago when it was for sale, and gave it a pass.
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Nice boat. Unusual keel design at the twin props. I'm surprised there was not a skeg extending to under the rudders. Thanks for the link!
 
oscar said:
Funny, for us the ABOSLUTE limit for overnight guests is 2 nights. And while my lovely bride and I can be in the same room for weeks, the business of running the boat is all mine. She'll play human autopilot for a few minutes, lookout or throw a line at a fuel dock attendant but that's about it.

Size depends on what it is. Properly set up one can go quite large in this configuration. Our last was 42' (sail), the next one will be in the 50's (power).
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Agree and similar here!

Also, chosen model and size of boat is not only what looks good... but importantly... what feels good!
 
OldDan1943 said:
Mystic Seaport in Conn. has discovered they can make a place in history by teaching wood boat repair and rebuilding historic boats and ships. I visited it in the 60s, before they rebuild the out buildings etc. What impressed me was small size of the sailing wooden whaling vessels. They were 'purpose built' ships with little consideration for crew comfort.
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I LOVE Mystic!

Another great wood boat restoration location is 40 minutes from our home, it's in Sausalito CA.

Spaulding Boatworks: Photo Gallery — Spaulding Marine Center
 
I offer this as my interesting boat. What makes her interesting is her name. SS Minnow.



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This is Minnow #1.
There were actually four S.S. Minnows used on the show. The first Minnow was purchased and towed out to Kauai and used in the beach scenes. The second one was a rental they used in the opening credits at the Honolulu Harbor. It showed the crew boarding and then showed it sailing out to sea to give escorted tours. The third was filmed in the opening credits of the second season at Marina Del Rey in Los Angeles. The fourth one was built for CBS Studios and is shown at the Lagoon in the second season opening credits.

Man I am showing my age.
 
OldDan1943 said:
Every time I see a boat over about 45 feet, the phrase "paid crew" or very dependable friends jumps into my head.

Even if you and your mate are 100% compatible and equally skilled, sometimes you will need another couple to bounce off ideas. IMO, any voyage lasting more than a week needs another couple, another stateroom and another head.
My N46 was about the right size. My current boat AT34 is a bit too small unless the other couple likes to sleep in the saloon, sleep and wake on my schedule or an agreement can be reached on 'hot bunking, (not wife nor husband swapping.)'
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My wife and I run our 63’ lwl 70’ loa Hatteras by ourselves. We like to have dock hands assist on arrival, but unless there is a strong adverse current running it is not strictly necessary. We can always depart without assistance. My SO has bad knees that preclude her from quickly jumping onto a floating dock or from climbing up onto a fixed dock, but most times there is no issue holding the boat in place as she goes ashore. Big boats tend to move slowly in response to wind so there is often time to do what is needed. For instance it is no issue for me to place the boat and then walk to the bow and toss a line ashore....
 
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