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02-09-2015, 08:07 PM
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#1561
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Veteran Member
City: MILWAUKIE
Vessel Name: Angelique
Vessel Model: Hatteras 80' CPMY
Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 96
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I like the party value math but there will be times when one engine slow is fine and the party is the ride like downriver in the Columbia River Gorge. Up River I am getting killed.
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Dan Enloe
80' Hatteras
2 Detroit Diesel 12V71TIs
Angelique
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02-09-2015, 08:23 PM
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#1562
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Guru
City: Fort Myers, FL... Summers in the Great Lakes
Vessel Name: Slow Hand
Vessel Model: Cherubini Independence 45
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 12,834
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Art
What is Coot's cruising speed... 6 knts? That means 1.5 gph = 0.25 gpnm. If cruise is faster with same gph then gpnm would even be a bit less. Great boat mileage!
For the following calcs I levelized costs of diesel and gasoline.
"Your Coot": At 0.25 pgnm = 4 nmpg = 100 mile trip on 25 gal fuel X $4.00 per gal = $100. At 6 knts = 2 - 8.3 hr days of cruising.
"Our Tolly": Can get up to 2.75 nmpg on one engine at 6 knts; which would = 57 gals (a little more than twice your fuel use and twice the cost) on 100 mile trip in the same 2 - 8.3 hr days of cruising.
However, I go for the gusto on 100 mile trips. Doing 17 knts and getting 1 nmpg for 100 miles = 100 gals X $4.00 = $400. And at 17 knots = 5.88 hrs cruising. Which means that for $300 extra fuel dollars I get 10.78 extra hours at anchor or at dock for party time and my trip is completed in one long morning. So...the extra $300 can be divided by the extra 10.78 hours of party time which means my party time is worth $27.83 per hour!
Everything is relative... now isn't it!! The good ol' trade off factor comes into play!
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If it's the journey and not the destination, then clearly there's more hours of enjoyment with the Coot for the same distance traveled. And who wouldn't want more of a good thing?
Ted
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Blog: mvslowhand.com
I'm tired of fast moves, I've got a slow groove, on my mind.....
I want to spend some time, Not come and go in a heated rush.....
"Slow Hand" by The Pointer Sisters
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02-09-2015, 09:26 PM
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#1563
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Guru
City: SF Bay Area
Vessel Model: Tollycraft 34' Tri Cabin
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 12,569
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You're, we're all correct. Everyone gets a chicken dinner with crab and shrimp appetizers.
I often cruise at below hull speed... but when I feel like getting some place fairly quickly - I hit 17 knots plane!
That said: I do not get Mark's Coot's 4 nmpg. Best our Tolly can do 1s 2.75 to 3 maximum nmpg at same or even lesser approx. speed of 6 knots on one engine of her twins.
Single screw FD hull wins hands down for economy... planing hull wins in other ways!
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02-09-2015, 09:51 PM
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#1564
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Senior Member
City: Knoxville
Vessel Name: Pura Vida
Vessel Model: 08 Meridian 490 Pilothouse
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 316
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We usually travel at hull speed but will kick it up to 20 knots to make happy hour
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02-10-2015, 12:13 AM
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#1565
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Guru
City: ketchikan, Alaska
Vessel Name: 'SLO'~BELLE
Vessel Model: 1978 Marben-27' Flybridge Trawler(extended to 30 feet) Pilothouse Pocket Cruiser[
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 2,206
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Art,
You are a man of means by no means!! Go with the gusto! I on the other hand have to live on my retirement. Don't know what I will do the second week!!
Al
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02-10-2015, 03:17 AM
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#1566
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Veteran Member
City: Wherever the boat is
Vessel Model: 48 foot sailing Yacht
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 92
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This boat anchored next to us a few months ago.
Is it true 10% of males are colour blind ?
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02-10-2015, 04:34 AM
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#1567
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Guru
City: Sarasota,FL/Thomasville,GA
Vessel Name: Steppin Stone IV
Vessel Model: Marine Trader Kelly Trawler 46
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 1,815
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Noelex
This boat anchored next to us a few months ago.
Is it true 10% of males are colour blind ?
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If he had a little money he could get a orange boat
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02-10-2015, 07:27 AM
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#1568
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Guru
City: Thibodaux, Louisiana
Vessel Name: Gumbo
Vessel Model: 2003 Monk 36
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 3,882
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If I owned that boat I'd name it "Orange you Jealous?"
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02-10-2015, 09:46 AM
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#1569
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Guru
City: SF Bay Area
Vessel Model: Tollycraft 34' Tri Cabin
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 12,569
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve
If I owned that boat I'd name it "Orange you Jealous?"
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02-10-2015, 10:07 AM
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#1570
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Guru
City: Hailing Port: Charleston, SC
Vessel Name: Moonstruck
Vessel Model: Sabre 42 Hardtop Express
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 8,276
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The guy is a University of Tennessee fan. Even their blood runs orange.
When are you painting your hull P V? You know VOL NAVY and all.
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02-10-2015, 10:12 AM
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#1571
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Guru
City: SF Bay Area
Vessel Model: Tollycraft 34' Tri Cabin
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 12,569
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Al
Art,
You are a man of means by no means!! Go with the gusto! I on the other hand have to live on my retirement. Don't know what I will do the second week!!
Al
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Hi Al - Always fine to hear from you!
In my several meaningful creative-business and personal-life gallivants through-out my years (started in 6th grade and do not plan to quit! - lol)... I've been a man of "means" more than once... I'm sure you understand what that means.... Which factually means I've also seen the side of little means and by all means understand what it means to live at that level of means too. Saying this by no means is intended to color any level of means with other than the color it really means! As I write this an email question just came in from an ASU-LightWorks regarding what I stated in a recent Business Plan I wrote actually means. This means that I will need to end this fun post regarding "means" but in no way means I will not again address this interesting topic regarding what it all means!
And, I mean it!
This of course means that our brains actually have the means to dissect "means" and maybe come to a plausible conclusion that means means something!
Happy Means Daze! - Art
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02-10-2015, 11:56 AM
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#1572
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Senior Member
City: Knoxville
Vessel Name: Pura Vida
Vessel Model: 08 Meridian 490 Pilothouse
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 316
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Orange blood all year round, orange flag during football season for the Vol Navy. It would be even better if we could win some games.
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02-10-2015, 12:02 PM
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#1573
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Curmudgeon
City: Stoney Creek, MD
Vessel Name: Moon Dance
Vessel Model: 1974 34' Marine Trader Sedan
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 2,775
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Peyton Manning ain't walking through that door any time soon.
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02-10-2015, 12:45 PM
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#1574
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Senior Member
City: Tennessee River
Vessel Name: SEEKER
Vessel Model: Trans Pac Eagle 32
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 143
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I thought that was an anti theft device-- as no one would steal it
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02-10-2015, 03:57 PM
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#1575
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Senior Member
City: SanFran
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 167
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02-10-2015, 04:54 PM
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#1576
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Guru
City: Sydney
Vessel Name: Sojourn
Vessel Model: Integrity 386
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 13,333
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Noelex
This boat anchored next to us a few months ago.
Is it true 10% of males are colour blind ?
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Should be easily seen in a rescue situation.
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BruceK
2005 Integrity 386 "Sojourn"
Sydney Australia
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02-12-2015, 10:19 AM
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#1577
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Guru
City: I need a bigger boat!
Vessel Model: Cheetah 25' Powercat.
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 925
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On the Hamble river in the Uk.....
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Peter.
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02-12-2015, 10:43 AM
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#1578
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Curmudgeon
City: Stoney Creek, MD
Vessel Name: Moon Dance
Vessel Model: 1974 34' Marine Trader Sedan
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 2,775
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LRC58Fan
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Very cool! I expect to see this in a future Bond movie.
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02-13-2015, 04:55 PM
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#1579
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Veteran Member
City: Baltic Sea
Join Date: Nov 2014
Posts: 36
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rustybarge
On the Hamble river in the Uk.....
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Peter, now that's a classy looking yacht!
Reminds me a bit of the "Gatsby 39", a boat designed by James Backus (known for the Lord Nelson Victory tugs).
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02-13-2015, 05:06 PM
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#1580
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Guru
City: Victoria TX
Vessel Name: Bijou
Vessel Model: 2008 Island Packet PY/SP
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 5,290
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