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Old 01-01-2015, 11:05 AM   #1341
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I saw this one and it does look very interesting to me.


IMHO: Bout as pretty as a floating Sees Candy box. But, I bet it too has plenty of room for delectable inside treats! Shark is good name. Looks like it could eat other boats...
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Old 01-01-2015, 11:11 AM   #1342
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My son rode our waverunner and jumped the wake of this one from Oregon Iron Works. It is a new one for the Seals and SOCOM. Total stealth boat.

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One of those followed me in SF Delta a few months back. Funny thing was: I could see it in my rearview mirror on the bridge... but every time I turned to look it seemed to simply disappear. Linda told me I must be crazy. But no, I'm sure I caught glimpses in the mirror!

That story and a bag of chips will get you a seat in the nut house.

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Old 01-01-2015, 01:13 PM   #1343
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A research vessel turned into a luxury trawler

I will get some better pics when i take my boat out could not get fAr enough away
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Old 01-01-2015, 02:55 PM   #1344
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"Stiletto".

Herreshoff design.
Pretty slick. KJ




And here she is underway!

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Old 01-02-2015, 01:10 AM   #1346
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From The Wooden Boat Forum:

"Here is some more info - Fish Hawk Films was lucky enough to get some footage of the legendary STILETTO (1978) on Narragansett Bay. At 48' long and with a beam less than 7' wide, Stiletto is capable of running at up to 25 knots. This classic wooden rocket is based on the proportions of early US Navy torpedo boats. In 2011, Herreshoff Designs modified Stiletto for cruising on the East Coast and now she can usually be seen on the ICW between Bristol, Rhode Island and the west coast of Florida. The 250 BHP Yanmar engine burns only 4 gal/ hr at cruising speed so long distance cruising is very economical."
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Old 01-02-2015, 07:27 AM   #1347
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"Here is some more info - Fish Hawk Films was lucky enough to get some footage of the legendary STILETTO (1978) on Narragansett Bay. At 48' long and with a beam less than 7' wide, Stiletto is capable of running at up to 25 knots. This classic wooden rocket is based on the proportions of early US Navy torpedo boats. In 2011, Herreshoff Designs modified Stiletto for cruising on the East Coast and now she can usually be seen on the ICW between Bristol, Rhode Island and the west coast of Florida. The 250 BHP Yanmar engine burns only 4 gal/ hr at cruising speed so long distance cruising is very economical."
Great, and thanks! I was wondering the moving-stats on that beauty. Can you tell me: What is its 4 gal/hr "cruising" speed? And, what is its bottom design... have you bottom pictures?

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Wow!!!

Slides through the water with amazing grace.
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Old 01-02-2015, 09:47 AM   #1349
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<Big Sigh> Yet another toy to add to my wish list for when I win the Lotto!

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Old 01-02-2015, 09:48 AM   #1350
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Art,

Sorry, but all I could find is the quote in the post above. I did find a photo of the bottom though.

I just can't seem to get enough of this boat for some reason.
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Old 01-02-2015, 10:14 AM   #1351
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You can see her sliding through the water with no water in sight.

I'm at odds about the boot stripe running up at the bow. I really like the wheelhouse. The pointed fore cabin even looks great mostly because of her extremely high aspect ratio.

The longer and leaner boats get the better they look underway.
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Old 01-02-2015, 12:37 PM   #1352
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Sorry, but all I could find is the quote in the post above. I did find a photo of the bottom though.

I just can't seem to get enough of this boat for some reason.


This sleek boat can truly be termed a "Beautiful Toy"! Even her elegant trailer/lift/support system provides the appearance of a toy.

Stiletto would be a blast to charge around the bays in. Unfortunately, I believe in her dimensions (especially at 7' beam) using her as a jaunt, commuter, or discussion piece is about all the marine-world space she commands. Our in comparison clunky ol' live aboard-in-comfort pleasure crafts (trawlers if you desire) are boat designs such as we should adhere to.

In just a few minutes we're heading toward for our Tolly for a couple winter days. She does not get the mention of Stiletto... but... she does invite compliments and simply, affordably pleases the heck out of us while fulfilling our current boating needs!

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I was expecting to see a harder chine and/or a flatter bottom. With that narrow beam and curvaceous bottom, I bet she rolls like a pig in any kind of beam sea. She sure is pretty, though. I love that color scheme. Something about a sleek flag blue hull that makes my pants fit funny.
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Old 01-02-2015, 01:48 PM   #1354
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At times I'm sure the rolling is bad but most of the time I'm guessing she's a lot better in that reguard than most would think. Think of a 4' wide al John boat 11' long. Now think of the same john boat extended to 30'.

And of course much smaller course changes from parallel to seas would be required to snuff out the roll. Would be bad though if they got really parallel to waves. Even quite small ones.

I'd take her in a minute if it wasn't for moorage rates.
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Old 01-02-2015, 01:58 PM   #1355
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Stiletto is a newer built, single engine version of Francis Herreshoff's Piquant design, done in 1950. The shape is somewhat based on his father's pre-1900 steam driven torpedo boats.

The original Stiletto

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LFH's launch Piquant, 47' by 6'6". She had twin tiny gas engines, I believe 16HP each, and could manage 20mph top speed. LFH claimed she was the most efficient possible.

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It's funny no one will admit that her beam is only 6'6", less than that of my 20 footer....

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In his book, The Complete Cruiser, Francis outlined a larger cruising version of Piquant/Stiletto, 66' by 10' and called Lampooner. He thought she would do 25mph top speed with twin 100 HP diesels. One of the odd consequences of this shape is that Lampooner has 30' long prop shafts with about 15' of it outside the hull, = multiple struts.

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TAD wrote;
"LFH's launch Piquant, 47' by 6'6". She had twin tiny gas engines, I believe 16HP each, and could manage 20mph top speed. LFH claimed she was the most efficient possible."

Very efficient indeed. Was she light, normal or ultra light? Her wake is very minimal but do you suppose her drag is mostly hull friction? How does a boat of this aspect ratio do in rough water?
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Old 01-03-2015, 10:20 PM   #1359
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Saw this beauty, “Freedom”, pulling out of Vero Beach.

A 1926 104ft Trumpy design.

She has quite an interesting history also.
Her restoration is completely photo documented.

You can buy a 5% ownership share for about $500,000, plus usage fees of about $4000 a day, plus operating expenses. You are required to use her at least eight days a year.

This week it was a dermatologist from somewhere.

Still, it’s a pleasure to see such elegant lady on the water. KJ





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"LFH's launch Piquant, 47' by 6'6". She had twin tiny gas engines, I believe 16HP each, and could manage 20mph top speed. LFH claimed she was the most efficient possible."

Very efficient indeed. Was she light, normal or ultra light? Her wake is very minimal but do you suppose her drag is mostly hull friction? How does a boat of this aspect ratio do in rough water?
Well I searched out the real facts and I was grossly mistaken. "Piquant was 47' long on the waterline with 6'6" beam, 2' draft and 6700 pounds displacement. Two 35 HP engines driving through 2:1 reduction spun her 20" x 24" props at 950 rpm with the engine turning over 1900 rpm. Cruising speed was 16 knots; top speed was over 20 knots. At 16 knots she burned three gallons of gas per hour. L. Francis Herreshoff said of her: "No model since 1880 has proved capable of carrying more accommodations at higher speed with less horsepower, or has begun to have the seaworthiness of this elongated lifeboat model, all flying float stages and test tanks to the contrary." "

Piquant was extremely light, with a displacement /length ratio of about 36. Irens Range Boats are about the lightest possible cruiser and they have a D/L of about 86. Piquant, (despite LFH's claim) has no real accommodation as we know it, no standing headroom except out in the open cockpit and two cubby holes with pipe berths forward and aft, that's it.

I would expect her to be fast and wet in any coastwise cruising seaway, her fine lines will drive through a sea rather than jerk up over the top. I think Bob Beebe wrote that this type in a big sea rode "like a hooked swordfish", ie sometimes violent motion but perfectly safe.
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