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04-21-2017, 07:43 PM
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City: Concrete Washington State
Vessel Name: Willy
Vessel Model: Willard Nomad 30'
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 18,743
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Probably looks a lot like my Willard except longer. Much of the details, especially in the cabins look like the Willard. Soo many YW adds don't show the hull pics. Shame
I don't care for the dark hull or wannabe windows but most others will at least like them.
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North Western Washington State USA
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04-22-2017, 12:46 AM
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#4122
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City: Kitimat, North Coast BC
Vessel Name: Badger
Vessel Model: 30' Sundowner Tug
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 5,946
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Interesting eye bolted on the bow, just above the waterline; probably for reducing scope...
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05-02-2017, 09:04 PM
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Guru
City: Concrete Washington State
Vessel Name: Willy
Vessel Model: Willard Nomad 30'
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 18,743
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Interesting boat I think.
For sale for something south of $100K.
Think it has JD power.
Very nice boat.
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North Western Washington State USA
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05-02-2017, 09:07 PM
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City: Quebec
Vessel Name: Bleuvet
Vessel Model: Custom Built
Join Date: Jan 2016
Posts: 4,375
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nomad Willy
Interesting boat I think.
For sale for something south of $100K.
Think it has JD power.
Very nice boat.
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and looking at the name in French you may get a good deal
L.
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05-02-2017, 11:27 PM
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#4125
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Senior Member
City: Northern Ontario
Vessel Name: Chickadee
Vessel Model: Pilgrim 40
Join Date: May 2016
Posts: 169
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Eric: - you have any details on that boat?
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05-02-2017, 11:56 PM
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#4126
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City: Boston Area
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 2,610
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05-03-2017, 07:19 AM
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Senior Member
City: Northern Ontario
Vessel Name: Chickadee
Vessel Model: Pilgrim 40
Join Date: May 2016
Posts: 169
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Ah!
A William Garden design ...... that explains why she looks beautiful and purposeful at the same time!
Thanks Benthic!
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05-06-2017, 02:43 PM
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#4128
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Guru
City: Kitimat, North Coast BC
Vessel Name: Badger
Vessel Model: 30' Sundowner Tug
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 5,946
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Trondheim 40'
Steel hull, Class A-Ocean, Ice Class B, 2500 nautical mile range, 925 gallons fuel, electric hybrid, 2 Torqeedo Deep Blue motors for 160hp.
Interesting to see if it'll ever 'get off the ground'. As of January this year a shipyard in the Netherlands has supposedly been contracted for the first to be built.
Trondheim Trawlers
30 footer proposed; http://www.trondheimtrawlers.com/trawler30
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05-06-2017, 03:25 PM
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City: Boston Area
Join Date: Feb 2017
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that looks interesting for sure... I wonder about the efficiency of generating mechanical engergy with a motor...converting that to electricity to charge batteries...then converting it back to mechanical engergy to turn props. It states a 2500 mile range on 925 gallons..that's 2.7 mpg....is that much better than a similar sized diesel powered hull?
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05-06-2017, 03:53 PM
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#4130
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Guru
City: Kitimat, North Coast BC
Vessel Name: Badger
Vessel Model: 30' Sundowner Tug
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 5,946
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Benthic2
that looks interesting for sure... I wonder about the efficiency of generating mechanical engergy with a motor...converting that to electricity to charge batteries...then converting it back to mechanical engergy to turn props. It states a 2500 mile range on 925 gallons..that's 2.7 mpg....is that much better than a similar sized diesel powered hull?
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Probably a marketing departments interpretation...no wind, waves or adverse current, running on batteries as much as possible, etc.
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05-06-2017, 05:14 PM
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Guru
City: Upstate,SC
Vessel Name: Shipoopi
Vessel Model: derilic sailboat
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 2,884
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Benthic2
that looks interesting for sure... I wonder about the efficiency of generating mechanical engergy with a motor...converting that to electricity to charge batteries...then converting it back to mechanical engergy to turn props. It states a 2500 mile range on 925 gallons..that's 2.7 mpg....is that much better than a similar sized diesel powered hull?
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I'm skeptical as well. It'd be nice to eliminate the noise of some diesel engines in boats and possibly reduce the vibrations. I follow some of the electric motor tech, not necessarily for boating. I still don't think the tech is quite there to eliminate the drive engines in boats.
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05-06-2017, 05:16 PM
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#4132
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Guru
City: Concrete Washington State
Vessel Name: Willy
Vessel Model: Willard Nomad 30'
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 18,743
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Slow Gypsy,
It was $95K
Then it was to pricy IMO.
NOW AT $75K it seems about right.
Glad we decided not to sell Willy. The market favors buyers to be sure.
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North Western Washington State USA
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05-06-2017, 07:31 PM
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Guru
City: Adelaide
Vessel Name: Kokanee
Vessel Model: Cuddles 30 Pilot House Motor Sailer
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 3,218
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Benthic2
that looks interesting for sure... I wonder about the efficiency of generating mechanical engergy with a motor...converting that to electricity to charge batteries...then converting it back to mechanical engergy to turn props. It states a 2500 mile range on 925 gallons..that's 2.7 mpg....is that much better than a similar sized diesel powered hull?
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That sounds like a bit of a stretch to me. As Murray suggested, it could be in perfect conditions. The numbers aren't overly useful unless they equate it to a given speed. It could be 2.7 mpg @ 4 knots. My boat can do that under diesel alone.
Still - It is great to see builder stretching the boundaries. We are not far off seeing something that makes sense technically and financially.
Still - I wouldn't be buying the Tronheim 40. That is one ugly boat! The 30 is a little better looking. I'm open to new technology, but still a traditionalist when it comes to looks.
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05-06-2017, 08:45 PM
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Guru
City: Kitimat, North Coast BC
Vessel Name: Badger
Vessel Model: 30' Sundowner Tug
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 5,946
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I'm trying to imagine what it would look/feel like plowing into a large head sea. Probably far less impact than a flaring bow, but that small bit of flare at the gunwale would kick up a spectacular show.
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05-06-2017, 09:18 PM
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Guru
City: Kitimat, North Coast BC
Vessel Name: Badger
Vessel Model: 30' Sundowner Tug
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 5,946
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MurrayM
I'm trying to imagine what it would look/feel like plowing into a large head sea. Probably far less impact than a flaring bow, but that small bit of flare at the gunwale would kick up a spectacular show.
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Here's a hint:
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05-06-2017, 09:54 PM
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City: Quebec
Vessel Name: Bleuvet
Vessel Model: Custom Built
Join Date: Jan 2016
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I looked at the 30 feet. They say it has 1500km capability and 1500L of fuel,which gives 1L/km. With my 30 feet boat, at 7 knots (13km/h) I burn 1.5g/h so let say 6L for 12km to simplify, it give .5L/km.
I am a lover of the idea to have an hybrid boat like that and saw a post in this forum about someone who did experiment with a Grand Banks and it was really interesting.
But for this one looks like the fuel efficiency numbers are either off scale or wrong.
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05-06-2017, 10:19 PM
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#4137
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Guru
City: Kitimat, North Coast BC
Vessel Name: Badger
Vessel Model: 30' Sundowner Tug
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 5,946
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I think they are adding the range (at the slower 4 knot speed) supplied by the special battery banks that come with the Torqeedo 80i inboards...as in, you don't have to run the Diesel engine all the time.
Inboard - Deep Blue 40/80i 1400 - Torqeedo
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05-06-2017, 10:25 PM
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#4138
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Guru
City: Guelph
Vessel Name: Escapade
Vessel Model: 50` US Navy Utility trawler conversion
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 2,432
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AusCan
That sounds like a bit of a stretch to me. As Murray suggested, it could be in perfect conditions. The numbers aren't overly useful unless they equate it to a given speed. It could be 2.7 mpg @ 4 knots. My boat can do that under diesel alone.
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Right. We get a clue from the power quoted - 160 HP from the two motors. With the equivalent of two 100 HP diesels it's not going to be a speed machine.
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05-07-2017, 05:04 AM
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#4139
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Veteran Member
City: Prescott
Vessel Name: JOURNEY
Vessel Model: Prairie 29
Join Date: Dec 2016
Posts: 84
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And looking at the design has anyone thought about where they would store a dingy. Lots of great seating, but even the 40 has no good place to store a dingy off the swim plank. Design looks like a lot of the fishing boats I have seen in Norway
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05-07-2017, 12:09 PM
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#4140
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Guru
City: ketchikan, Alaska
Vessel Name: 'SLO'~BELLE
Vessel Model: 1978 Marben-27' Flybridge Trawler(extended to 30 feet) Pilothouse Pocket Cruiser[
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 2,206
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Speaking to Norsk style 'Trawlers', here is a traditional model underway. I'd bet many of us envy the sea keeping of the style.
Al-Ketchikan
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