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Old 06-10-2016, 09:50 AM   #3421
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Hollywood and Bruce B,
The stick boat and the tub. Oh yes all the Willards resemble the other end of a bathtub and I don't like sailboats much but I'd like to have a stick on mine at times for a stabilizing sail. The 36 is the best looking Willard but thier proportions make them so tall and wide (hull wise) they resemble ships more than most boats ... kinda the opposite of a Fleming. But for the size of the boat the Willard probably much more seaworthy than a Fleming.

Yup .... I would never buy some Willards myself but I think all the displacement Willards have a hull beauty that puts them way up there visually. And to me the 40 is just so big .... But most here think big is great.
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Old 06-10-2016, 10:01 AM   #3422
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Hollywood and Bruce B,
The stick boat and the tub. Oh yes all the Willards resemble the other end of a bathtub and I don't like sailboats much but I'd like to have a stick on mine at times for a stabilizing sail. The 36 is the best looking Willard but thier proportions make them so tall and wide (hull wise) they resemble ships more than most boats ... kinda the opposite of a Fleming. But for the size of the boat the Willard probably much more seaworthy than a Fleming.

Yup .... I would never buy some Willards myself but I think all the displacement Willards have a hull beauty that puts them way up there visually. And to me the 40 is just so big .... But most here think big is great.
Eric - Willard made planing hull[s]?? Personally I like the mellow, easy-going look of Willard hulls and superstructures. Not my choice... but, nice for sure!
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Norse classic 1950, 7.7x2.6x0.7m , pine/oak, mahogany, teak, stabiliser sail, (32k€)

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Old 06-11-2016, 01:22 PM   #3424
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Norse classic 1950, 7.7x2.6x0.7m , pine/oak, mahogany, teak, stabiliser sail, (32k)

Fana Batbigery spitsgat kajuitsloep - www.boten.be - Klassieke boot Hout - Diesel
Now, That IS a Classic!
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Old 06-11-2016, 02:38 PM   #3425
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But not a stabiliser sail.

Beautiful boat w fine ends. Probably very easily driven .... by about 5hp. One quarter of what Willy requires and basically the same size boat.
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Old 06-11-2016, 03:05 PM   #3426
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But not a stabiliser sail.

Beautiful boat w fine ends. Probably very easily driven .... by about 5hp. One quarter of what Willy requires and basically the same size boat.
Yes she's with small Sole Mini 17 (16hp Mitsubishi 2 cyl.)
Looks like mizzen?
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Old 06-11-2016, 05:49 PM   #3427
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Mizzen mast of course. I was see'in a flag pole in the earlier pic.

I see the instruments are where they usually are on a sailboat.

Probably cruise speed ... with very minimal wake.
Any pics of her out of the water?

Engine in Willy is 4cyl 37hp. Bout two times yours.
Love these low powered vessels.

One of my canoes gets 4hp.
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Old 06-11-2016, 06:06 PM   #3428
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Eric, more photos out of the water there:
Fana Batbigery Spitsgat Kajuitsloep, Traditionelle Motorboot zum verkauf, Poelmans Road & Marine, YachtFocus
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Wouldn't that mast be for a riding sail?
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Old 06-11-2016, 08:59 PM   #3431
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oldmarlin,
Wow that's the real deal. Could be called a fish form hull. The fwd end is fuller than aft. The opposite of my boat clearly. Very efficient. It would be hard for water to make a fuss going around this beautiful hull.
Owning a boat like this must be a bit like being grampa to Taylor Swift.
Thanks for posting.
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Old 06-11-2016, 09:03 PM   #3432
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What a beautiful boat! Is that a two blade prop?
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Is that a two blade prop?

Yes

Reminds me of the small Monterrey Clippers
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I almost bought a Monty about 5 years ago. It was a toss up between one and the 26' motor whaleboat I did get. The Monty was the same length, with the basic same eng, wood of course, all in all in fair shape but needed a lot of wood work and all I could see was 3 months hauled out, so passed and got the glass whaleboat instead. I really do like the Monterey boats though and have a few neat books about them.
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Old 06-12-2016, 10:21 AM   #3435
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Cute little boat. Tad Roberts design.

http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/2011...s#.V11u9vQ8KnM

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Bartenders were designed by George Caulkins in lengths of: 19, 22, 26,
29 and 32 feet.
They may have been MODIFIED by other designers, I don't know.

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Interesting boats

Ahh, my apologies. I was just going by the description in the listing.

Here is more info on this Timbercoast model. Looks like Tad did design this model?

http://bartenderboats.com/product/22-timbercoast/
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From Tad's website;

"'In shaping the hull of the TimberCoast 22 I kept the original Bartender form in mind but included additional criteria. While maintaining the seaworthiness of the older sibling, the new boat is to be more fuel efficient at low speed."

Timbercoast Troller 22, New Displacement Design for Bartender Boats ~ Small Boat Designs by Tad Roberts

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George Calkins's Bartenders are all high-speed planing hulls. My design for Bartender Boats, the Timbercoast Troller, is a low-speed (7 knot)full displacement hull, actually a mini-motorsailer. Bartender Boats, in seeking to diversify, has never been able to differentiate the two, in hindsight it was probably foolish to try.
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TAD,
I agree.
However 7 knots is probably a bit fast for the TT.
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