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Old 06-02-2013, 03:32 AM   #321
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That's a very nice looking Thunderbird!

He's another Seaborn boat:
32' sloop, 2 boats must sell (no affiliation)
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Old 06-02-2013, 05:59 AM   #322
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Thunderbird


Although created as a"racing boat" many have cruised extensively.

The Beam is about 7.5 ft yet it is comfortable (tho cosy ) inside .
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Old 06-02-2013, 10:09 AM   #323
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More on Ben Seaborn designs and history: Ben Seaborn's Boats
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Old 06-02-2013, 10:46 AM   #324
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We've seen the Cape Ross (photo posted by Tad) several times. I think she is based where we are, at Shilshole marina in Seattle. We were tied up to her for a couple of days last summer up at Gorge Harbor. Beautiful lines, nice layout, and looks like a lot of comfortable living space. An elegant vessel to be sure.
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Old 06-02-2013, 02:49 PM   #325
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Growing up at Lake Stevens (7 miles east of Everett, Washington), and spending a lot of time on the Port of Everett's waterfront, I saw a few Thunderbirds, as well as a bunch of wooden inboard (read, V-8 Chrysler 383's & Chevy 327's for power) "Speedsters," as Lake Stevens was one of only a few lakes in Washington that had Ski Jumps and major Ski Competitions back in the day (they've now been removed, too many accidents, too much public risk). The first boat I piloted at the age of 12 was a 22' wooden ChrisCraft open (windshield only) "police boat" that belonged to a close friend of my dad up on the north side of Camano Island... Fred (owner) liked to water ski on the Puget Sound when the water was flat enough, and had nobody available to tow him, so when we visited on weekends, I got to fly that hot-rod around the north Puget Sound, towing a guy who could do spins & flips even on water skis... She was running a 327-CID 325-HP (Corvette) engine with dry exhaust & Fresh-Water Keel Cooling, and I'm pretty sure the cooler mounted into the insets along the keel were Monel (had that nickle color), as I got to see the boat's underside each time we took her out of the water on the powered boat lift inside the beach boathouse (yeah, he had more than a few "coins," know what I mean, Vern?)
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Old 06-02-2013, 02:58 PM   #326
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When Fred sold his property on Camano Island and moved to Ballard to be closer to his downtown Seattle business, he bought a 28' TollyCraft Express Cruiser, moored her on Lake Washington near the University, and I got to travel through the Ship Canal and out the Ballard Locks numerous times. In 1972, the girl I was dating at the time and I were watching the Parade of Boats in June as they grouped up in Elliot Bay and came in through the Locks on the annual event that culminated in Lake Washington. When the TollyCraft group came through, I remembered the unusual names on many of them, such as "Tolly Roger," Jolly Tolly," and other names including something to do with the boat brand. When I arrived in Juneau 4 years ago, I was amazed at how many of those boats ended up here, and bought the Jolly Tolly for my first Alaska boat.
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Old 06-02-2013, 03:49 PM   #327
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This one looks like it came right off my Photo-Shop archives, but it didn't. Not a port-light in sight.

39 X 14.8 X 3.6 Steel Pleasure Tug Built in Port Colborne, Ontario in 2007 Molded depth: 5 Shell plating thickness: 3/16 Bulkheads: 2 Headroom: Cabin 6.8, Engine room 5 Engine: Navistar 360, 200 hp, year 1994, 1500 hours Transmission: Allison, 3:1 ratio Propeller: LH 26 x 26 Shaft size: 1 Cruising Speed: 10 knots Fuel Capacity: 180 gal Fuel Consumption: 3 gal/hr Steering: Manual or Hydraulic Electronics:
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Old 06-02-2013, 05:31 PM   #328
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This one looks like it came right off my Photo-Shop archives, but it didn't. Not a port-light in sight.

39 X 14.8 X 3.6 Steel Pleasure Tug Built in Port Colborne, Ontario in 2007 Molded depth: 5 Shell plating thickness: 3/16 Bulkheads: 2 Headroom: Cabin 6.8, Engine room 5 Engine: Navistar 360, 200 hp, year 1994, 1500 hours Transmission: Allison, 3:1 ratio Propeller: LH 26 x 26 Shaft size: 1 Cruising Speed: 10 knots Fuel Capacity: 180 gal Fuel Consumption: 3 gal/hr Steering: Manual or Hydraulic Electronics:
it reminds me of this...............
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Old 06-02-2013, 05:50 PM   #329
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... notable for huge Aluminum(non-magnetic) block diesel engines..
They are Cleveland 12-278A models, with Stainless steel, not aluminum blocks and fitted with bronze accessory/blower cases and reduction gear housings.

Here's a photo of one of a pair in a large yacht. I made the local control stand at the rear of the engine ... Left side of photo.
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they are cleveland 12-278a models, with stainless steel, not aluminum blocks and fitted with bronze accessory/blower cases and reduction gear housings.

Here's a photo of one of a pair in a large yacht. I made the local control stand at the rear of the engine ... Left side of photo.
WOW! More please, if you may, on these engines and also the vessels propelled by them.
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What an engine- I looked it up and came across this info:
"The Cleveland Diesel Model 278A was extensively applied in U. S. Navy vessels, including late wartime production of fleet submarines, destroyer escorts, fleet tugs, auxiliary tugs, harbor tugs, and amphibious warfare vessels including some LSTs. It was also a popular engine in the early postwar years for use in commercial tugboats and railroad tugs."

A link to the source-

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Old 06-02-2013, 10:02 PM   #332
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In 1960 I worked in a Powerhouse at a mine in western AK that had a straight eight 268A. The blower was on the front of the engine. We ran it for one day that season .. yup .. Scream'in Jimmy. My father had a 103' packer (ex Navy craft) also w the 268A 8 cyl rated at 500hp.

In the powerhouse we also had 2 locomotive engines (800hp each) and an 8 cylinder Enterprise .. turbocharged. The Enterprise was new and state of the art for 1960. I was 20 years old.

No pics. My camera then was a Kodak Brownie "Hawkeye" box camera that took 620 roll film.
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Old 06-02-2013, 10:17 PM   #333
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Starfire is a Bill Garden design buit by Philbrooks. She is located here at the marina currently. Twin 12 71 NA. Too much boat for the likes of me but I am in love.
I would love to see the interior of this one.
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Old 06-02-2013, 10:29 PM   #334
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And Bill's boat on the trailer.....

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Is that a North Sea (transverse) wet exhaust on this boat?

More pictures please Tad, before it turns into the ugly boat thread...
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Bulls Cruisers

I spent many years of my life happily on the Gippsland Lakes in Victoria Australia. I always lusted after but could never afford, a 'Bulls Cruiser' a 36ft beamy vessel created specifically as a 'hire boat' on the lakes and built in the Bulls shipyard in Paynesville.

They were built in the 50's I believe and had old, used, London taxi 4 cyl Blaxland engines. The hulls were built of inch and a half (YEP !) red gum timber (one of the densest timbers in the world) specifically because they knew drunks would end up ramming them into jetties...;-)

I was in love with them mainly for the simplicity of their design and the beautiful use of wood inside...and they are still one of the best laid out and roomiest boats of the size I have ever seen. Unfortunately a lot of pictures I took of them in person died with an external hard drive a while back but I have a couple of the exterior...
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Craig,
There was an article in Wood Boat Magazine about boats just about exactly like your "Bulls Cruiser". They were basically big water taxi's on big lakes.

Clearly a very interesting boat.
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1934 Millers (Scotland). Live-Aboard conversion with Gardner 6LB Diesel, reportedly sold for 1000 pounds Sterling. Blog says she was still coded up to a couple of years ago.
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How about this one? The masts belong to boats in back of her
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So does the keel!
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So does the keel!
Are you sure about that?
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