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04-09-2016, 10:16 AM
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Guru
City: SF Bay Area
Vessel Model: Tollycraft 34' Tri Cabin
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 12,569
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Originally Posted by Rustybarge
Get building; the plans and cutting files are only $1400.
Over 100 hulls already built: impressive!
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Wonder the cost if I hired workers into my company - specifically for building this boat, with me 50% of build-time on active duty too??
Let's say average for on-site hired persons doing 40 hr. weeks (in CA U.S.): One do-it / hands-on build manager $2K per wk., two craftsmen $3.5K per wk., two smart helpers $1.5K per wk. Estimate weekly cost = $7K per wk. all inclusive for hired help. My time at 50% on site (20 hrs. a week) equivalents to $2K sweat equity = total labor cost $9K weekly. Total out of my pocket $7K weekly. Workers paid going rate value at salary and/or hourly wage.
Lets say we can build it complete in 13 months: 56 wks x $7K = $392K (my sweet equity = $112K)
Yard to build it in and xtra costs such as shipping etc, etc = $30K
How much do parts cost, inclusive engine etc... $350K to $400K??
That would mean (calculating on high $ide at first blush): For $822K Boat would be ready for splash. Add in my $112K SE and it costs bit under $1M - in CA, U.S. that is...
Soooo - How much is boat value once fully completed and all bugs worked out - $1.5M / 1.75M / $2M???
Sippen coffee and just wondering!
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04-09-2016, 10:36 AM
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#3302
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Guru
City: I need a bigger boat!
Vessel Model: Cheetah 25' Powercat.
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 925
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Art
Wonder the cost if I hired workers into my company - specifically for building this boat, with me 50% of build-time on active duty too??
Let's say average for on-site hired persons doing 40 hr. weeks (in CA U.S.): One do-it / hands-on build manager $2K per wk., two craftsmen $3.5K per wk., two smart helpers $1.5K per wk. Estimate weekly cost = $7K per wk. all inclusive for hired help. My time at 50% on site (20 hrs. a week) equivalents to $2K sweat equity = total labor cost $9K weekly. Total out of my pocket $7K weekly. Workers paid going rate value at salary and/or hourly wage.
Lets say we can build it complete in 13 months: 56 wks x $7K = $392K (my sweet equity = $112K)
Yard to build it in and xtra costs such as shipping etc, etc = $30K
How much do parts cost, inclusive engine etc... $350K to $400K??
That would mean (calculating on high $ide at first blush): For $822K Boat would be ready for splash. Add in my $112K SE and it costs bit under $1M - in CA, U.S. that is...
Soooo - How much is boat value once fully completed and all bugs worked out - $1.5M / 1.75M / $2M???
Sippen coffee and just wondering!
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Have a look here for exact figures for finished hull, or ready cut kit for home welding.
Similar length boat, steel, but different shape : €62k finished hull/superstructure ready for engines/paint.... Click on PDF button to get kit prices: €26k for 11 tons cut steel.
https://www.bonitoboats.eu/bonito_bo...ito_46_fo.html
Not so out of reach...second hand engines/gboxes, industrial bridge Epoxy paint etc etc
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04-09-2016, 10:54 AM
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#3303
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Guru
City: Hotel, CA
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 8,323
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rustybarge
TF forum member vonovik is about to build this Bruce Robets design.
Lovely lines; proper pilot house trawler.
Reminds me a bit of those beautiful Watson 60' explorer yachts...
...but $3m cheaper!
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Didn't TF member Conal just build that Bruce Roberts design and start cruising it?
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Craig
It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they've been fooled - Mark Twain
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04-09-2016, 11:42 AM
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#3304
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Guru
City: I need a bigger boat!
Vessel Model: Cheetah 25' Powercat.
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 925
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CPseudonym
Didn't TF member Conal just build that Bruce Roberts design and start cruising it?
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Aha, I think you're right; it looks like the same boat in his avatar.
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04-09-2016, 11:50 AM
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Guru
City: Hotel, CA
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 8,323
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I believe pics #'s 1&2 in the above post are photos of Conall's boat or a very near sister ship.
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Craig
It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they've been fooled - Mark Twain
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04-09-2016, 12:09 PM
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#3306
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Guru
City: I need a bigger boat!
Vessel Model: Cheetah 25' Powercat.
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 925
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CPseudonym
I believe pics #'s 1&2 in the above post are photos of Conall's boat or a very near sister ship.
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He must have all the build data and costs ...
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04-09-2016, 04:49 PM
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TF Site Team
City: Paris,TN
Vessel Name: Slo-Poke
Vessel Model: Jorgensen custom 44
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 3,749
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45' (I think) home built steel Seaton design "Jim Dandy" 671 Detroit dry stack ,Green Turtle Bay today .
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04-09-2016, 05:48 PM
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#3308
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Guru
City: Victoria TX
Vessel Name: Bijou
Vessel Model: 2008 Island Packet PY/SP
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 5,290
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pack Mule
45' (I think) home built steel Seaton design "Jim Dandy" 671 Detroit dry stack ,Green Turtle Bay today .
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Sweet lines.
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04-10-2016, 05:36 PM
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#3309
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Guru
City: I need a bigger boat!
Vessel Model: Cheetah 25' Powercat.
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 925
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Steel 42 MTR catamaran, with real helicopter.
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04-13-2016, 02:17 PM
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#3311
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Senior Member
City: Gaine's Marina
Vessel Name: REAL MOUNTIE
Vessel Model: 1986 PILGRIM 40 HULL No 28
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 179
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04-13-2016, 03:02 PM
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#3312
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Guru
City: Victoria TX
Vessel Name: Bijou
Vessel Model: 2008 Island Packet PY/SP
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 5,290
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Quote:
Originally Posted by REAL MOUNTIE
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That's a cool website. Neat looking designs.
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04-13-2016, 04:16 PM
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#3313
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Curmudgeon
City: Stoney Creek, MD
Vessel Name: Moon Dance
Vessel Model: 1974 34' Marine Trader Sedan
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 2,775
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Quote:
Originally Posted by REAL MOUNTIE
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Now, THAT'S a pretty boat!
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04-13-2016, 07:18 PM
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#3314
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Senior Member
City: discomfort.reactants.peanuts
Join Date: Sep 2014
Posts: 470
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Conrad 58
Here's a good looking little steel ship I came across earlier today:
Here's the link for those who want to see the specs on this beauty:
http://conradshipyard.com/motor-yachts/classic-58/
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04-13-2016, 07:45 PM
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#3315
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Guru
City: Concrete Washington State
Vessel Name: Willy
Vessel Model: Willard Nomad 30'
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 18,738
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DD,
Maybe that's what my Willard wants to be when she grows up.
Anchor dosn't look up to the job.
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Eric
North Western Washington State USA
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04-13-2016, 08:04 PM
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#3316
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Guru
City: SF Bay Area
Vessel Model: Tollycraft 34' Tri Cabin
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 12,569
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Diesel Duck
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You're gonna get another anchor debate going!! LOL
Nice looking boat with fly bridge - what's not to love?? Oh yeah - the anchor!
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04-14-2016, 08:46 PM
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#3317
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TF Site Team
City: Paris,TN
Vessel Name: Slo-Poke
Vessel Model: Jorgensen custom 44
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 3,749
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This thing is starting to grow on me but it's steel . It could use some wood on it somewhere to take the edge off . I've been aboard it a couple years ago . The engine room is huge .
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Marty
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04-14-2016, 09:24 PM
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#3318
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Guru
City: Longboat Key, FL
Vessel Name: Bucky
Vessel Model: Krogen Manatee 36 North Sea
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 5,196
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Marty: That's the most rigging are Gerber seen on any boat anywhere!
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Larry
"When life gets hard, eat marshmallows”.
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04-14-2016, 10:56 PM
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#3319
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TF Site Team
City: Paris,TN
Vessel Name: Slo-Poke
Vessel Model: Jorgensen custom 44
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 3,749
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Quote:
Originally Posted by healhustler
Marty: That's the most rigging are Gerber seen on any boat anywhere!
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Sorry Larry I know it's a bad picture . Here is one without so much rigging .
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Marty
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04-14-2016, 10:59 PM
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#3320
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Guru
City: Victoria TX
Vessel Name: Bijou
Vessel Model: 2008 Island Packet PY/SP
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 5,290
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pack Mule
Sorry Larry I know it's a bad picture . Here is one without so much rigging .
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I like that boat!
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