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Old 03-10-2016, 10:48 PM   #3161
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In my teenage years, I was the foredeck man handling the launching and recovery of the spinnaker during races... without PFD or handrails. ...
Ah, those were the days.... I did that, good balance required, especially when gybing, with spinnaker pole detached one or both ends. I remember reading an early Americas Cup boat used a monkey on the foredeck.
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Old 03-11-2016, 08:52 PM   #3162
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Old 03-11-2016, 09:32 PM   #3163
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Looks as though somebody obtained a great buy on blue paint!!!
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Old 03-11-2016, 09:38 PM   #3164
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Old 03-11-2016, 10:42 PM   #3165
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Oh, man.......

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Old 03-11-2016, 10:51 PM   #3166
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Like the hull shape. House and stern do nothing for me. Boat hull that size and shape needs walk around decks all at one level.

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Old 03-12-2016, 12:24 AM   #3167
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You're showen some nice ones today! Thanks!!
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Old 03-12-2016, 10:11 AM   #3168
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Boat hull that size and shape needs walk around decks all at one level.
Really? If you shaved 5' off the canoe stern and squared off its butt, it would be the same length as Slow Hand and be 'pretty much' what you have
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Old 03-12-2016, 11:33 AM   #3169
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Murray,
I cut off roll bars but not propper sterns. The stern is great ..... the windows in the aft cabin are'nt.
And otherwise a really great boat IMO. As to the walk arount decks Ted has a point but underway who cares? And it looks like Ted's boat is clearly lacking in this regard. Perhaps that's why he likes the walk around decks. It's obviously a can't have everything question. I have walk around decks on a 30 footer and would rather have the wider salon.
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Old 03-12-2016, 11:42 AM   #3170
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Yah, I was being facesious (feces-ish?) trying to make a point.

The boat in question is most definitely designed to be going somewhere far, far away as opposed to going from dock to dock.

The stern would be great in our area, as long inlets and channels combined with opposing currents to wind make for steep, breaking seas.
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Old 03-12-2016, 01:16 PM   #3171
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Really? If you shaved 5' off the canoe stern and squared off its butt, it would be the same length as Slow Hand and be 'pretty much' what you have
Maybe you should look a little harder.

Ok, let's try this again. The boat has a heavy off shore displacement hull. Depending on how it was setup and size of fuel tanks, it could be a passagemaker. The hull is clearly designed for heavy seas and off shore fishing. I have a coastal recreational trawler. Slow Hand has hard chines, shallow draft, and no ballast. It's good for the Carrabean and maybe, if you feel lucky, a trip to Bermuda (700 to 800 miles). Passagemakers need to shed water. While there are plenty of scuppers on the sides, I much prefer the open side decks and stern of a KK42. To me the stern house or whatever it's called, should have walkways and scuppers around and behind it. With a hull like that, it should have house structure like a Romsdal.

That's my opinion; worth what you paid for it.

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Old 03-12-2016, 09:49 PM   #3173
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Maybe you should look a little harder.
Sorry, Ted...still not seeing your walk around decks all on one level on Slow Hand...

Anyways, there is no perfect boat, only one with the least amount of compromises for the owner so there's a slim chance we'll agree, and that's all right
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Old 03-13-2016, 12:12 AM   #3174
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Something about these converted European fishing boats...

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Sorry, Ted...still not seeing your walk around decks all on one level on Slow Hand...
Exactly my point. Slow Hand wasn't designed for off shore passage making. The other vessel clearly has a pedigree for that. Slow Hand wasn't designed to be out in 8' seas and doesn't need the side walkways and water shedding capability. The other boat by the nature of it's original use, was probably designed to handle 8' seas and more.

Would be interesting to see what that boat looked like before they added the aft cabin.

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Right, now I see what you're getting at. I could suffer with it though, if through some twist of fate it was given to me.
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Old 03-13-2016, 01:26 PM   #3178
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Cool potential, and check out that engine/ballroom;

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Old 03-13-2016, 03:09 PM   #3179
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Here's that engine/ballroom for boat above;
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Pieter Beeldsnijder drew the hull and house of Klee Wyck as he has a stunning number of others. I like most of them.
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