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Old 01-30-2016, 01:45 PM   #2921
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Mr. BL. Touché...
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Old 01-30-2016, 02:00 PM   #2922
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cute little boat

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That Pilgrim is about the most efficient trawler hull you'll ever see.
I'm not knocking it guys... for some reason, it's the only boat I took pictures of at Trawlerfest. I loved the use of space on Papillon, table top that stows under the cockpit ceiling that makes both stern tables into a big single table top. Swing up ladder for more cockpit space.

The open array radar antenna was right at head level for me on the flybridge. I would have assumed the higher power, longer range radar would have been mounted higher on the mast???? Not at brain baking level.

Mom says I'm part french huguenot so I shouldn't crack on the french. Still have bump on my head where I stood up in the lower helm of the Swift Trawler and hit the ceiling. The guy was showing off the little step that folds down for shorter people?? How about an extra headroom model for non-midgets?
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Old 01-30-2016, 02:13 PM   #2923
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The stabilizers on that boat make it the most complicated Pilgrim around. Not really understanding the need for stabilizers on this coastal cruiser.
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Old 01-30-2016, 02:17 PM   #2924
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The stabilizers on that boat make it the most complicated Pilgrim around. Not really understanding the need for stabilizers on this coastal cruiser.
Reason; A lot of wine!
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Old 01-30-2016, 02:58 PM   #2925
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Sorry to disillusion you !

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Frenchies? Frenchmen perhaps...
Cat aside your illusions ! 😂

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Old 01-30-2016, 04:18 PM   #2926
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i remember when those hit the market, they were pretty, but more of a ginger bread etc, type of boat! i guessed they would be great for inland, ie, lakes/bays, etc, interior was funky, not efficient at all, cute, but don`t go anywhere!...clyde
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Old 01-30-2016, 05:08 PM   #2927
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Does anyone want a sailboat without a mast?

1999 New England Boatworks Ultra Light Displacement Trawler Power Boat For Sale

This one has sailboat written all over it, but it lack a mast. They even have dual steering systems (all external) just like a sailboat. 80' long and 2 cabins. Single engine with a bow thruster. Not sure if you can remote control the autopilot from below in heavy weather, but should you even be out in heavy weather in this boat?

Odd - perhaps I should have posted it in the UFO page...
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Old 01-30-2016, 05:18 PM   #2928
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Does anyone want a sailboat without a mast?

1999 New England Boatworks Ultra Light Displacement Trawler Power Boat For Sale

This one has sailboat written all over it, but it lack a mast. They even have dual steering systems (all external) just like a sailboat. 80' long and 2 cabins. Single engine with a bow thruster. Not sure if you can remote control the autopilot from below in heavy weather, but should you even be out in heavy weather in this boat?

Odd - perhaps I should have posted it in the UFO page...
Thanks for interesting link. Yes you are right, UFO page would been more appropriate 😄👍
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Old 01-30-2016, 05:31 PM   #2929
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If my ciphering is right her maximum range is about 700nm +/-. Listing says "capable of long passages". Not quite long enough to get one across the pond. Hmmm...everything's relevant I suppose.
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Old 01-30-2016, 05:43 PM   #2930
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Does anyone want a sailboat without a mast?

1999 New England Boatworks Ultra Light Displacement Trawler Power Boat For Sale

This one has sailboat written all over it, but it lack a mast. They even have dual steering systems (all external) just like a sailboat. 80' long and 2 cabins. Single engine with a bow thruster. Not sure if you can remote control the autopilot from below in heavy weather, but should you even be out in heavy weather in this boat?

Odd - perhaps I should have posted it in the UFO page...

US$ 850,000 ??????????? Pigs might fly serious ??? I just cant see any value and who would buy it and if you did who could you sell it to ?
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Old 01-30-2016, 07:49 PM   #2931
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US$ 850,000 ??????????? Pigs might fly serious ??? I just cant see any value and who would buy it and if you did who could you sell it to ?
Recently covered in Passagemaker. It was a high-tech sailboat that was converted to a long-range cruiser by the owner.
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Old 01-30-2016, 08:27 PM   #2932
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That was my first thought for an economical and seaworthy trawler. A sailboat w a trawler house and no mast or rigging. And w a much smaller keel. Would'a been more efficient than my Willard but Willy's not far off.

That boat would'nt interest me w the poor visability fwd.
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Old 01-30-2016, 08:39 PM   #2933
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Recently covered in Passagemaker. It was a high-tech sailboat that was converted to a long-range cruiser by the owner.


A brick is a brick by no other name and a rose is a rose that so called cruiser is a sailboat without a sail. Or as my grandfather would say it was a great idea at the time .

Not for me and @ $850000 he is dreaming IMO $150000 and I would be afraid I wouldn't get my $$ back in 12 months time .
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Old 01-30-2016, 08:58 PM   #2934
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A few years ago I posted some shots I took of a pair of brand new net boats that had just been completed by Rozema Boatworks in Bayview, Washington, which is south of Bellingham. Here are those shots again. The prop is protected so it won't entangle the net. The twin "keels" do double duty as a convenient cradle to support the boat on the stern of the seiner when it's underway or not fishing.

Net boats like these come past our slip a lot on their way to and from the fuel dock as the seine fleet in our harbor gets ready to leave for an opening. Some have big 400+ cubic inch automotive V-8s in them, some have diesels. I was told by one of the commercial fishboat crew guys there even is, or was, one with a V-12 gas engine in our harbor. When one of these boats fires up you can hear it all over the harbor.

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Old 01-30-2016, 10:01 PM   #2935
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No propwalk on those guys.
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Old 01-30-2016, 10:12 PM   #2936
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It looks like the centerline engine box is designed so they can stack up.

From the bow, it looks like a sleigh

and it has toe holes in the transom. Pretty cool!

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If my ciphering is right her maximum range is about 700nm +/-. Listing says "capable of long passages". Not quite long enough to get one across the pond. Hmmm...everything's relevant I suppose.
RT, The listed fuel capacity is poorly worded:

"Fuel Tanks: 4 (175 Gallons)"

Later in the listing, fuel capacity is clairified:

"Fuel Capacity (4 tanks + 1 reserve in aluminum): 700 US gallons (2,700 liters)"

And then some performance numbers are listed:

Speeds:
Maximum: 10 knots/6 gph at 2,400 RPM
Cruising: 9 Knots/3 gph at 1,600 RPM with 2,330 nm (no reserve)
Economical: 8 knots/2 gph at 1,450 RPM with 2,800 nm (no reserve)

I agree with previous posts: The price is too high, it should have remained a sailboat, visibility from the house is poor. It is altogether a strange boat.

However, the fuel economy (4 nm/gallon @ 8 knots) and resultant long range combined with (what I assume to be) very good seaworthiness, might make this an attractive boat for a serious voyage - as long as you can beat down the asking price to something more reasonable.

Someone did spend a fortune building it in carbon/epoxy. Check out the very large, custom carbon fiber rudder quadrant.

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Mr. P. Ahhh...Missed that totally. Yup, that's a long passage. Thanks. Still, for that price I think there are probably Nordhavn's available.
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I think Nordhavns are a bit more expensive than that...

2010 Nordhavn 76 Power Boat For Sale - www.yachtworld.com

this one is nice, big and lots more expensive but shorter than the converted sailboat.

If you're talking older 40' nordhavns, yes, they are getting more affordable and about in the range of this 80' sailboat without a mast thing.
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Old 01-31-2016, 09:59 AM   #2940
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How is this for a scary fuel manifold

North :: Mechanicals

If ABYC says that engine room fuel systems should handle a full on fire for 30 minutes, what do they say about piping fuel around with hoses?

The water is plumbed with PVC piping like a trailer, not PEX.

Dual westerbeke generators with matching hours? So that means supporting 2 staterooms requires 60kw in power? Why no sound shields? that means you have to sound shield the whole engine room, perhaps they did.

That big boat only has two staterooms, both on the same level as the salon except the master forward has 2-3 steps down. One would think a boat of that style and opulence would have crews quarters?

The engine room is accessed how? looks like perhaps 3' height in the engine rooms.

That means the hull is empty except for tanks. 4'6" draft isn't a passage maker in my book. Apparently it made it from Indiana to Vancouver somehow.

Pretty boat from the outside, but scary behind the paneling and beneath the decks..
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