Interesting boats

[Nomad Willy]

No,
It's a full planing hull and if not made too heavy should be as good as the old SeaRays or Bayliners. Like most cruisers they have excellent space usage. And they all are nice looking or cute if you prefer.

 

[Nomad Willy]

Little doubt fishermen consider cost versus benefit.

Mark,
Good point. The fishermen would almost all prefer to have a Forfjord but most can't afford them and your cost connection applies. It also applies to pleasure boats. I like them (Claws) but not their tendency to break out vertically. I think it's related to the angle of the shank to the fluke. Too much throat angle. I've seen Danforths that have too much throat angle. They pop up their rear ends (the aft end where the stock is) up and out of the seabed. Breaking out. With less throat angle they may not do that. Some Claws have less throat angle than others.

I like these Northills. Especially the stocks. They are oriented to present a V shaped concave surface to the seabed once a fluke is buried. Could have more holding power than most home made Northills. The genuine Northills have a concave stock but it's U shaped as it's basically a channel.

 

[Ted]

I think if you check that boat and the rigging you'll find those anchors are for holding
nets in place

Ted

 

[dhays]

No,
It's a full planing hull and if not made too heavy should be as good as the old SeaRays or Bayliners. Like most cruisers they have excellent space usage. And they all are nice looking or cute if you prefer.

Maybe the outboard gives them a little more interior space? Is it cheaper to maintain an outboard?

Ranger Tug owners seem to be ridiculously happy with their little boats. The boats are well laid out and seem comfortable. They can go fast which makes it nice for quick weekends and yet I have seen plenty of them venturing far afield, often in a group. Being trailerable is an added bonus but I don't know how many actually are. If one happened to have a decent sized pick-up and good place to park it, you could potentially save a ton of money in moorage.

Personally if I was going smaller and "cute" I would opt for a NT26 or 32.

 

[Benthic2]

Ranger Tug 27 = 7000 pounds & $185k
Nordic Tug 34 = 15,000 pounds & $420k

I wouldn't think of them in the same category or as direct competitors.

 

[Nomad Willy]

Benthic2,
That's not apples and oranges. That's potatoes and watermelons.
So yes not similar at all.
Like your skiff. What is it? An interesting boat?

Dave,
Can't relate to your calling a NT 32 cute. A very serious boat IMO.

Ted wrote;
"I think if you check that boat and the rigging you'll find those anchors are for holding
nets in place"
Indeed .. it appears very cheap kedges are usually used. Does your experience reflect that?

 

[dhays]

You are right, but I never look at new boats anyway. NT26 and NT32 are old boats at this point and can be had at a reasonable price. Very different boats, but if I was to go smaller and cuter, it would be an older NT.

 

[Benthic2]

That is a 16' Sturdee Amesbury Dory. Great little boat. That picture is in the Annisquam river section of Gloucester, MA

Stur-dee Boat - Amesbury Dory

 

[klee wyck]

I'm kind of curious why they switched to an outboard, and why they felt the need to add 50% more horsepower. I suppose its probably still economical at 8-10 knots.... it just seems like a strange direction .....is a 300hp outboard less expensive than a 200hp diesel inboard ? ...or if it was about saving money I'd think an inboard gasser would have been cheaper....I just don't get it.

Think about cooling an outboard versus an inboard. No brainier for me in this configuration, give me the outboard and life just got vastly simpler and the interior vastly more spacious, safe, and clean. That extra 100 ponies was likely free at original cost of either.

 

[MurrayM]

Here's my favourite trailerable 'trawler'...the Caledon 27:

Caledon 27

 

[markpierce]

I think if you check that boat and the rigging you'll find those anchors are for holding
nets in place

Ted

True. They fish for herring, the last commercial fishing in the San Francisco Bay.

The boat's skipper told me they are moving toward the Bruce to replace the Northill.

 

[JLD]

It looks like the Ranger 27 went from 200hp inboard Volvo to a 300 hp outboard Yamaha

Here's a member review of the boat on the Tugnuts website, The new 2018 R-27 review

I like the redesign of the Ranger 27, but not keen on having a gas outboard, as I would prefer a diesel engine, with diesel heat, and a diesel (or at least propane) generator on a boat this size. I had thought I wanted a trailerable boat (the R27 has a 8'6" beam), but living on the east coast have decided that a boat with a wider beam makes much more sense for me!

Jim

 

[Ted]

Benthic2,
That's not apples and oranges. That's potatoes and watermelons.
So yes not similar at all.
Like your skiff. What is it? An interesting boat?

Dave,
Can't relate to your calling a NT 32 cute. A very serious boat IMO.

Ted wrote;
"I think if you check that boat and the rigging you'll find those anchors are for holding
nets in place"
Indeed .. it appears very cheap kedges are usually used. Does your experience reflect that?

Yes

Ted

 

[Art]

Ol' boats never really loose their full essence... e.g. the energy that builders put into them.

Edith looks as stately today as I believe she did when younger. In this pict we could easily imagine she's just pulling into dock for supplies to go out fishing again.

Oh... the stories she knows! Gotta wonder if there's a person still around today who recalls her back-when. Also, gotta wonder if there's anyone alive who was conceived in her cabin... we'll never know the whole story!

 

[Nomad Willy]

Art,
You're such a romantic but I'm not having fun yet today so thanks forthe lift.

 

[RT Firefly]

A bit beyond the boat stage... HMS Queen Elizabeth finally takes on its Ship's company | Daily Mail Online

 

[Art]

A bit beyond the boat stage... HMS Queen Elizabeth finally takes on its Ship's company | Daily Mail Online

Truly an amazing ship!

However... Just imagine if that much intelligence, energy, manufacturing, leadership and money could be put toward assistance for mankind; rather than for war/police machinery? I'm not trying to detract for current need of this type of warfare/police equipment... I am simply restating my premise that the human race [taken as a single entity of intelligence] is blooming insane! And, unless we as a global entity admit to this perpetual insanity, wherefrom we all could recognize our insanity and take peaceful actions to abate it, we will forever be assaulting/killing each other in one form or another.

Sad but True!!

 

[Woodland Hills]

Here's a member review of the boat on the Tugnuts website, The new 2018 R-27 review

I like the redesign of the Ranger 27, but not keen on having a gas outboard, as I would prefer a diesel engine, with diesel heat, and a diesel (or at least propane) generator on a boat this size. I had thought I wanted a trailerable boat (the R27 has a 8'6" beam), but living on the east coast have decided that a boat with a wider beam makes much more sense for me!

Jim

You can tow up to 10' wide without a permit or an escort vehicle. You just need "oversize" signs front and rear....... The only real restriction is no towing between dusk and dawn. If you only move the boat a few times a year, it's not much of an inconvenience.

 

[GFC]

Woodland, that may be a CA law but it's not nationwide. My 330 Sundancer had a beam of 11'5" IIRC and we towed it several times using the "OVERSIZE LOAD" signs and orange flags at the widest points. We always got permits and didn't need to have pilot cars unless we got off the freeways and hit the 2-lanes.

 

[MRRiley]

Here's kind of fun one for the nostalgic, navy trained, seafarer.

A 1958 YPB. Reconditioned if not restored, 80 ft, 900 hp with 4 671's. Probably cheaper to run on everyone's favorite uncles fuel card.

I can confirm this was in use in San Diego in the early 90's training future ship drivers in boat handling, docking, signal flags, and general shipboard operations and commands.

Video:

Listing:

https://www.boatwizardwebsolutions....its=Feet&access=Public&listing_id=77760&url=&

 

[SlowGypsy]

With a displacement of only 69 lbs., she shouldn't be that bad on fuel economy!

 

[Greg S]

Another one, but somewhat more than 69 pounds.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/734...08343702579865/?sale_post_id=1408343702579865

 

[MurrayM]

Pretty sure this Dutch Barge is category B; Boats for sale Belgium, boats for sale, used boat sales, Barges For Sale Much Admired 24M Luxemotor Matariki with TRIWV - Apollo Duck

Yup - category B: http://www.steelboats.co.uk/brief-specification-fcn-steel-seagoing-barge/

 

[MurrayM]

More on the FCN barges:

First and foremost the Peter Nicholls FCN is a true seagoing barge to category B RCD ( the EU Recreational Craft Directive.) This means , in simple terms, cruising conditions up to 4 metres wave height and force 8 on the Beaufort Scale.

Seagoing Dutch Barge

 

[MurrayM]

Dang. There's something about them Dutch barges...this one has additional outside steering on pilothouse roof: https://wolstenholmedesign.wordpress.com/cruising-barges/

 

[Nomad Willy]

Murray,
About ten yrs ago I had a dinghy made locally here that had a very Dutch persona w it's reverse curve stem. A very handsome boat and actually rowed very well. I'll see if I can find a pic tonight .. if I don't forget.

 

[Art]

Dang. There's something about them Dutch barges...this one has additional outside steering on pilothouse roof: https://wolstenholmedesign.wordpress.com/cruising-barges/

Nice boats on that link. Thanks!!

 

[Benthic2]

While watching NCIS tonight ( Season 5, Ep. 1 ) The bad guy had a very nice boat. Its a 1947 Trumpy and Sons. Here's a screen shot from the show...better pictures here: The classic Motoryacht Mauretania

 

[MurrayM]

While watching NCIS tonight ( Season 5, Ep. 1 ) The bad guy had a very nice boat. Its a 1947 Trumpy and Sons. Here's a screen shot from the show...better pictures here: The classic Motoryacht Mauretania

Is that the broker in the foreground?

 

[Xsbank]

This was our penichette this Spring, at Narbonne, where we met Snow Mouse and his lovely wife. I'll write more about this soon.

Rats, I can't figure out why they are squint. Please forgive me, the first picture is NOT in Australia!