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Old 09-10-2015, 06:09 AM   #2301
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Not THAT new. I had to install them on loafs and fishes because of how slow she is. I have to keep an eye out for kayaks and canoes overtaking me. In fact, my boat is so slow...........how slow, you ask?
I have to clean bug splatters off the back windows.
How do you keep the mirrors clean? At least yours are not clamped to a stanchion.

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Old 09-10-2015, 08:17 AM   #2302
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These boats were in the yard yesterday morning. I believe the first one is a Willard. The great big one has been in our harbor for years. It's wood, and I can only assume the owner gets some money toward restoring it and it's hauled and a bunch of work done. Then it goes back in the water and sits for another year or two and then has another burst of work done on it. A number of years ago the entire back end of the hull was completely rebuilt.

I have no idea what it is. I recall hearing that it was originally a naval vessel of some kind, but I don't know that for sure. The props are massive. The yard was very smart in adding a 150 ton Travelift to their original 35 ton lift. The big lift brings in a lot of work, particularly during the winter when the yard is packed with big seiners and combination boats, some down from Alaska.

I don't know what the last boat is, either, but it's real pretty.
Geez, Marin - Those props must be 5 +/- foot dia.; judging from ladder rungs resting against boat. Either they turn really slowly or that boat goes like a bat out o' hell at WOT! You ever seen her cruising at speed in open water?
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I've never seen the boat move under its own power the entire time its been here which must be at least eight years or so. It's either in the yard or at a pier next to it. It's not a bad-looking vessel. My camera angles are not flattering. I'll try to get more of a side view and post it. Maybe someone like Tad or Hawg will recognize what it is if it was locally grown. Of course I could simply ask the yard manager when we're up relaunching our boat if I remember to.
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Old 09-10-2015, 07:02 PM   #2305
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I don't recall seeing a "Vehicles Carrier" before:

They are a frequent sight in Carquinez Strait.

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Old 09-10-2015, 07:21 PM   #2306
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I think you might have just won this thread. I looked at that and actually said out loud: 'Hm... That's... interesting.' Congratulations!

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Greetings,
Mr. W. Thanks but no thanks. I'm hoping this thread will continue on for years. From what I've seen so far 98% are winners...
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Old 09-10-2015, 09:53 PM   #2308
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This one has way too much glass to clean! looks like a canal boat with a glass roof, updated.
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Old 09-12-2015, 01:58 AM   #2309
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Marin.

That big one is just beautiful, something I could see myseld agound in Moreton Bay quite happily on. { Moreton Bay is shallow but vast, the loacls will get it } .

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David,

I get it alright.

For the non Moreton Bayers - I get a chuckle when I read the threads about how many hundreds of yards of chain and rode people carry - in my experience in the Bay - I am happy if I have more than a metre under the the keel at low tide when I anchor - so for me, 2 metres from bow roller to water, 1 metre to keel 1 meter to bottom - 4 x 8scope (allowing for high tide) means that I could get away with 32 metres of chain and never have a care - I do have considerably more though BTW!! 10 metres in the middle of the Bay is - for us locals - "frighteningly deep".

Several years ago we chartered a yacht and sailed along Turkeys Mediterranean Coast. Less than a mile off shore, the depth sounder gave up - it couldn`t measure beyond 240m. My wife adapted quickly though. In the bay, she reminds me of the depth when it gets to 3 meters. On that trip she nudged me at 50 metres!
Anchoring was interesting. Pick your spot. Reverse in. About 3 boat lengths from shore put the anchor over and let out as much chain at you had - keep backing until the rudder was close to the bottom and tie off to a tree or rock. My suspicion was the anchor barely touched the bottom as the fall off from the shore was so steep. No problem though as that part of the Med has NO tide - or if it does it is measured in inches/centimetres. In more than two weeks of anchoring and in various weather - no problem.

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This one has way too much glass to clean!
Seagulls love it though...
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Fish & Chics

Looks like a custom GB
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That is one of only three Grand Banks 66s every made. By the accounts I've read and been told the GB66 is one of the worst production boats ever made. One of them was commissioned in our harbor when it was new and a good friend who was the commissioning shipwright said the boat was so unstable he wanted to turn on the stabilizers when it was tied to the dock. The model was a complete failure and production was halted after the first three.

I've seen two of the three. The other one I've seen tore a stabilizer off the hull on a reef in SE Alaska and was in the local yard for repairs for quite awhile. Neither boat was named Fish & Chicks when I saw them but I suspect they may have been through several owners by now.

A big part of the problem stemmed from the buyer of hull #1 insisting on a fully enclosed flying bridge. This put a huge amount of weight very high on the boat. I'm sure it meets whatever stability requirements there may be for production boats but it makes the boats very top-heavy and they need stabilizers on all the time they are underway, even in smooth water. The buyers of hulls #2 and #3 wanted the same enclosed flying bridge as the owner of hull #1. So GB put them on.
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That is one of only three Grand Banks 66s every made. By the accounts I've read and been told the GB66 is one of the worst production boats ever made. One of them was commissioned in our harbor when it was new and a good friend who was the commissioning shipwright said the boat was so unstable he wanted to turn on the stabilizers when it was tied to the dock. The model was a complete failure and production was halted after the first three.

I've seen two of the three. The other one I've seen tore a stabilizer off the hull on a reef in SE Alaska and was in the local yard for repairs for quite awhile. Neither boat was named Fish & Chicks when I saw them but I suspect they may have been through several owners by now.

A big part of the problem stemmed from the buyer of hull #1 insisting on a fully enclosed flying bridge. This put a huge amount of weight very high on the boat. I'm sure it meets whatever stability requirements there may be for production boats but it makes the boats very top-heavy and they need stabilizers on all the time they are underway, even in smooth water. The buyers of hulls #2 and #3 wanted the same enclosed flying bridge as the owner of hull #1. So GB put them on.
Marin - What years were those three GB66 built? Wood or glass?
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Didn't think the extra weight would have been a problem as the length compensates for that, my concern would be the ever present wind and the enclosed bridge acting as a sail.

Pretty sure it'a a glass hull.
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They are fiberglass. I don't know the exact year but the first new one appeared in our harbor for commissioning sometime during the 2000s. Mid-2000s as I recall. Our shipwright friend who was doing the commissioning work said that simply walking from one side of the flying bridge to the other set the boat to rolling rather alarmingly at the dock. He said the boat was originally intended to have an open flying bridge but the buyer insisted on a fully enclosed one.

The boat is in essence a lengthened GB52. In my opinion the GB design does not hold up aesthetically past 46 feet or so. Seen in person the GB66 is pretty ugly and awkward in my and most of the other people who were around at the time the boats were here's opinions. Most people felt the boat was a case of "mine's bigger than yours."
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Didn't think the extra weight would have been a problem as the length compensates for that, my concern would be the ever present wind and the enclosed bridge acting as a sail.
5 feet of extra beam or a torpedo is what would/might compensate for that. I'm surprised GB went along with the requests.

There was a builder here years ago who produced a near perfect under 30' BC cruiser that was capable of the Alaska run. It was extremely popular among sport fishers and family cruisers. The guy was an excellent builder but lousy money manager. A big part of his failure was allowing partial builds to go out the back door.
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Interesting boats

I cruised a fair amount in the PNW on a friend's GB57 woodie. It had a more raised pilothouse and was stabilized - a fabulous boat but pretty darned expensive to maintain. I remember sitting in the saloon one evening and a compressor pump came on. I asked him what that was and it was one of 8 on the boat - he wasn't sure which.

But if was very stable at rest. I have a picture from SeaFair where there are at least 25 people on the boat deck and flying bridge and don't recall any tenderness as they moved around.
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Hawgwash--- When I say the boat is essentially a lengthened GB52 I mean in its design. I do not know the beam of the GB66, but I expect the hull is somewhat wider than the GB52.
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