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03-13-2015, 09:51 PM
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Senior Member
City: Virginia Beach
Vessel Name: Tuscan Sun
Vessel Model: Krogen 42
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Removing Name from Transom
I'm sure this has already been discussed, but I wasn't able to find it in a search. What is the best way to remove old vinyl lettering and prep for a new name (also vinyl)?
Mike Metts
KK 42-165
Virginia Beach, VA
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03-13-2015, 10:00 PM
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Scraping Paint
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To remove the old name in vinyl letters from the sides of the flying bridge of our PNW boat right after we bought it we used a heat gun (actually I think back then it was a hair dryer). You don't want to use so much heat you damage the gelcoat.
To remove the sticky residue after the letters were off we used citrus cleaner.
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03-13-2015, 10:13 PM
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Guru
City: Stuart FL
Vessel Name: Lucky Lucky
Vessel Model: Pacific Mariner 65
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Do a Google search. Lots of methods are described.
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Lucky Lucky
Stuart, FL
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03-13-2015, 10:27 PM
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Guru
City: Sarasota/Ft. Lauderdale
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Heat gun/hair drier, oven cleaner, vinyl eraser that fits on a drill, etc.
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03-14-2015, 12:02 AM
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Guru
City: Miami Florida
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Many years ago Practical Sailor magazine liked vinyl erasers like Capt. Bill suggested. 3m makes one but I think they all pretty much work alike.
No matter what you use to remove the vinyl, you're going to have a ghost image of the letters as the gel coat around the vinyl will have faded in the Sun. How do you guys deal with that? Compounding? Give it time, it'll even out?
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Retired from Hopkins-Carter Marine Supply
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03-14-2015, 08:07 AM
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Senior Member
City: Portsmouth, NH
Join Date: Nov 2014
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Good info as I will have to tackle this in a month when I return home. Time to get the Misfit Toy labeled correctly!
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03-14-2015, 09:03 AM
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City: Tsawwassen BC
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Having done this many times (with lease return vehicles) and with our boat a few years ago... The BEST method I use is to leave the boat in direct warm sunlight for a couple of hours and then use your finger nail to lift the decal. Gently pull the lettering off but try not to stretch it so it breaks. The remaining glue can be cleaned off easily with the 3M product or some kind of light duty cleaner. We use lacquer thinner and denatured alcohol but very lightly..
I have found that a heat gun or hair dryer is too hot and melts both the glue (and vinyl) into a mess. That mess is harder to clean up than just peeling the decal off the glue. Also never use a razor blade as it is easy to damage the warmed gelcoat.
Take your time
Oh and yes on ours the lettering was HUGE on the front brow so I compounded it a few times and it still showed but it slowly faded away and blended in.
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03-14-2015, 09:08 AM
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Guru
City: Cape Cod, MA
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What direct warm sunlight?
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03-14-2015, 09:39 AM
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Senior Member
City: Portsmouth, NH
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Brooksie
What direct warm sunlight?
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Should be back some time in June...
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03-14-2015, 12:33 PM
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Guru
City: St. Petersburg, Florida
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I've always preferred painted-on letters--just my preference. I just had my name and registration numbers re-painted, which lasted bout three years in the Florida sun. I was told over cleaner works best and doesn't harm the gelcoat or Awlgrip.
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03-14-2015, 12:33 PM
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Guru
City: Maine Coast
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A heat gun and a sharp scraper will remove it easily. A bit of paint thinner on a rag is all that is needed to remove residual adhesive. If you damage the gel coat, you can simply sand it smooth with 600 grit followed by 1000 and then compounding with 3M finesse it II.
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03-14-2015, 05:37 PM
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Guru
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The important question is what condition it is in and what quality was it when it went on.
I have hit the full gamut where nothing worked or anything worked. Take all the above suggestions and try the easiest and least damaging first and work up from there.
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03-14-2015, 06:53 PM
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Guru
City: Sydney
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We`ve been here before, I suggested eucalyptus oil as a glue solvent before, works and won`t harm paint. Sure we have the trees to yield the oil, but I`ve seen them grown lots of places outside Oz.
Using a scraper, I`d choose a plastic one.
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2005 Integrity 386 "Sojourn"
Sydney Australia
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03-14-2015, 08:36 PM
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Senior Member
City: Ventura
Vessel Name: Tatanka
Vessel Model: 32' Nordic Tug
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I just went thru this and it was a real bit*h to get off.
I started with citrus solvent and a razor blade. After gouging the gelcoat a few times I switched to Easy-Off and 600 grit wet sanding.
After that I compounded and followed with Finesse2.
I took off some decals and used a heat gun for that. Worked perfect.
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03-14-2015, 09:22 PM
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Senior Member
City: Virginia Beach
Vessel Name: Tuscan Sun
Vessel Model: Krogen 42
Join Date: Jul 2012
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Thanks for all the suggestions. Tomorrow we are going to try a heat gun with a plastic scraper on the name boards over the pilothouse. We'll see how that goes before we try the transom.
Mike Metts
KK 42-165
Virginia Beach, VA
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03-14-2015, 09:48 PM
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Veteran Member
City: Houston
Vessel Name: Cast Off
Vessel Model: 1984 hunter 34
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MikeM
Thanks for all the suggestions. Tomorrow we are going to try a heat gun with a plastic scraper on the name boards over the pilothouse. We'll see how that goes before we try the transom.
Mike Metts
KK 42-165
Virginia Beach, VA
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This is the 3M tool.It goes on a drill.Do not press down too hard.Always grind it off from right to left.Let it work into itself.If there is any residue left.Just clean with solvent.
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03-15-2015, 01:24 AM
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Senior Member
City: Ventura
Vessel Name: Tatanka
Vessel Model: 32' Nordic Tug
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MikeM
Thanks for all the suggestions. Tomorrow we are going to try a heat gun with a plastic scraper on the name boards over the pilothouse. We'll see how that goes before we try the transom.
Mike Metts
KK 42-165
Virginia Beach, VA
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Don't keep the heat gun too close. The gel coat will start to soften.
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03-15-2015, 07:54 AM
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Member
City: Burgess
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We were advised by a sign company to use one of the plastic razor blade scrapers (yes, it uses a plastic blade that looks like an old single edge razor blade) and then remove the sticky stuff using rubbing alcohol. It's not a fun job.
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03-15-2015, 09:47 AM
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Veteran Member
City: Houston
Vessel Name: Cast Off
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tomsmb
We were advised by a sign company to use one of the plastic razor blade scrapers (yes, it uses a plastic blade that looks like an old single edge razor blade) and then remove the sticky stuff using rubbing alcohol. It's not a fun job.
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Here's what they look like.
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03-15-2015, 10:05 AM
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Veteran Member
City: Calif Delta
Vessel Model: 34' Tollycraft Sedan
Join Date: Jan 2014
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I was told to use a rubber wheel, for vinyl. I just removed the 30 year old painted lettering, this week.
I used unscented easy off. Worked very well, not easy, did the job, but did stain the gel coat. A bit of compounding removed that. Old letters left raised areas but the color, after polishing up the transom, blended pretty good.
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