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Old 12-27-2018, 12:57 PM   #1
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I want lighting under my swim platform

Since it seems to be taking forever to have new glass cut for my windows, I’m taking on a dual project.

I desperately want lighting under my swim platform. I can handle the topside lighting and wiring myself.

What kind of lighting would you suggest for the swim platform. Preferably one I can change the color on.
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Old 12-27-2018, 01:42 PM   #2
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I have used lumitec under water lights with good results. Does blue and white light.

Lumitec Lighting Seablaze LED Underwater Lights by Lumitec Lighting
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Old 12-27-2018, 01:45 PM   #3
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Great! I’ll check it out!
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Check your local laws about colors of lighting you can display when underway. Blue lights underway are LE. Now poeple run with blue lights, but if LE is looking to issue citations, you just gave them a reason for it to be you. Personally I would stay away from blue and go with another color.
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They will never be on underway. Just in port.
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Check your local laws about colors of lighting you can display when underway. Blue lights underway are LE. Now poeple run with blue lights, but if LE is looking to issue citations, you just gave them a reason for it to be you. Personally I would stay away from blue and go with another color.
Dave, do you have a source for that info about blue being only for LE boats?


The reason I ask is PassageMaker mag had an article in the Oct, 2018 issue that had data saying red lights on the helm at night were worse for the eyes than blue lighting and suggested changing all helm lighting to blue.

Makes me wonder if the thoughts about blue on the boat at night are an old wives tale.
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The Coast Guard here does stop boaters with blue lights showing when underway. Usually it is just a matter of telling them not to run with the blue lights on. Not a high priority but if they are looking for a stop there you are. It can be a problem with all the colored lights underway, they sometimes overpower the navigation lights or send out mixed signals to other boats. Even the underwater lights can show when the boat rocks with the waves as it can look like a flashing light.
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Since it seems to be taking forever to have new glass cut for my windows, I’m taking on a dual project.

I desperately want lighting under my swim platform. I can handle the topside lighting and wiring myself.

What kind of lighting would you suggest for the swim platform. Preferably one I can change the color on.
We had the Lumitec's mentioned above installed last year during haul out. Excellent lights. I control the colors (blue/white) by a switch at the lower helm. My only regret was that they could not install a center light due to the placement of my water tanks. Could only get two, one on each side of the transom, a couple of feet in from the sides. While they are nice I wish I had a third one to really light up the water all across the stern. there is some separation of light due to this. If you can go with three. My transom is about 14' across.

Oh, one other "regret". If I did it over I would put the switch somewhere aft. Right inside the hatch to the aft stateroom. It's no big deal but it would be slightly easier to on/off/control from there.
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Dave, do you have a source for that info about blue being only for LE boats?


The reason I ask is PassageMaker mag had an article in the Oct, 2018 issue that had data saying red lights on the helm at night were worse for the eyes than blue lighting and suggested changing all helm lighting to blue.

Makes me wonder if the thoughts about blue on the boat at night are an old wives tale.
I cut and pasted a CG Advisory concerning LEDs and blue lights. Sorry it didn’t copy perfectly but I think it is readable. The blue lights are addressed towards the bottom in Rule 20.

November 4, 2015 Washington, DC
Safety Alert 10-15
The U.S. Coast Guard is concerned about the sale and availability of unapproved recreational and commercial vessel navigation lights. Purchasers of such lighting should be aware replacement lighting may be improper for its application due to the failure by manufacturers to meet technical certification requirements. Furthermore, technical advances in marine lighting, such as the use of Light Emitting Diodes (LEDs), rope lighting, underwater lighting, and other various types of decorative lighting, may violate navigation light provisions of the Nautical Rules of the Road.
LEDs under rub rail surrounding vessel.
Inspections and Compliance Directorate
NAVIGATION LIGHTS
The rules are for your safety!
The requirements for all navigation lights aboard vessels are prescribed in Rules 20, 21, 22 and Annex I of the “Rules of the Road,” which is the Convention on the International Regulations for Preventing Collisions at Sea (72 COLREGS) or the Inland Navigation Rules (33 CFR Subchapter E).
Specifications for lights vary depending upon the type of vessel but regardless of the light source (i.e., in- candescent filament or LED):
 Recreational vessel and uninspected commercial vessel navigation lights must meet American Boat & Yacht Council (ABYC) standard A-16, in accordance with specifications within 33 CFR 183.810 and 46 CFR 25.10-3, respectively.
 Commercial inspected vessels must be outfitted with navigation lights that meet or exceed Under- writers Laboratories standard UL 1104, as stated in the specifications of 46 CFR 111.75 -17.
Some manufacturers are producing and distributing navigation lights that do not meet the certification requirements indicated above. These lights are typically less expensive, making them a tempting choice for uniformed consumers. Use of lights that do not provide the proper chromaticity, luminous intensity, or cut-off angles could result in the issuance of a notice of violation or potentially cause an accident. Recrea- tional boaters should ensure each purchased navigation light contains the following information on the light or its packaging:
USCG Approval 33 CFR 183.810 MEETS ABYC A-16 or equivalent TESTED BY (an approved laboratory) Name of the light manufacturer Number of Model
Visibility of the light in nautical miles
Date on which the light was type-tested
Identification and specification of the bulb used in the compliance test.

Boaters should be concerned about installing “decora- tive” lighting on their boats in various places, including underwater, on the rubrail, or just above the waterline. Care must be taken that these lights:
 cannot be mistaken for navigation lights,
 do not impair the visibility or distinctive character of approved and properly placed navigation
lights, and
 do not interfere with the operator’s ability to
maintain a proper lookout. Such circumstances may represent a violation of Rule 20.
LEDs under rub rail surrounding vessel.
SAFETY ALERT 10-15
Rule 20 specifies that only those lights prescribed, or those that don’t interfere with those prescribed, may be used. Haphazard installation of additional lighting must be avoided. A violation can occur if the installation of additional lights can be construed as a light required by the Rules for another vessel. For instance, blue underwater LED lights can appear to be flashing if there is any wave action, giving the ap- pearance of a flashing blue light only authorized to be used by law enforcement vessels per 33 CFR 88.05.
Rule 21 provides the definitions for the masthead light, sidelights, sternlight, towing light, all-round lights or task lights, and flashing or special flashing lights. Task lights are those lights which place the vessel in a special condition (e.g., all-round red over white over red for a vessel with restricted maneuverability).
Rule 22 provides for the intensity requirements of each light, per vessel size, so that they may be seen at a minimum range.
Annex I of the Rules, specifies the vertical and hori- zontal spacing of each of the required lights both in relation to the vessel hull and with respect to other navigation lights. Compliance with the provisions of
Annex I ensures the light is properly mounted for its intended purpose. The proper installation of any light is critical to it being “U.S. Coast Guard Approved,” as required by Annex I (COLREGs, paragraph 14 and Inland, 33 CFR 84.20).
The Coast Guard strongly recommends that:
 boaters avoid purchase and installation of any light that does not present the required certification data, and
 retailers advise their customers to purchase certified navigation lights.
This Safety Alert is provided for informational purposes only and does not relieve any domestic or international safety, operational, or material requirement. This Alert has been developed by the U.S. Coast Guard’s Headquarters’ Offices of Navigation Systems, Auxiliary and Boating Safety, and Investiga- tions and Casualty Analysis. For questions or concerns, please email cgnav@uscg.mil.
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Basic navigation lights required by most vessels including the arc of visibility of each of the lights. Exact placement aboard the vessel depends upon size and design but must be in accordance with Annex I of the Rules (33 CFR 84).
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If this is at the dock only, why not look at this option?
https://www.deepglow.com/
You plug it in and drop it to the bottom.
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If this is at the dock only, why not look at this option?
https://www.deepglow.com/
You plug it in and drop it to the bottom.
Sure would be cheaper. Just have to remember to remove it every time I’m not there.
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Old 12-28-2018, 10:24 AM   #12
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or these...
https://www.underwaterfishlight.com/
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Old 12-28-2018, 12:07 PM   #13
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I put 2 of these on transom
good quality and price was right
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