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Old 09-12-2017, 05:27 AM   #1
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I ❤️ My 37 Nordic Tug - Brick Sh#t House

Prepared the boat for Hurricane Irma with new 3/4" three strand storm lines. On one of the stern lines I did not take into consideration that the storm could, and did, completely drain the eight feet of water out of our canal. The inside stern corner cleat ended up with the line leading over the edge of our concrete dock straight down to the cleat. The weight of the boat, as the eight feet of water blew out to sea, came to bare on this one cleat.
Before the cleat pulled out of the stern or even flex cracked the gelcoat, the brand new 3/4" three strand line broke! Holy crap. Now that is a boat that is well built!
I will never make that storm tie mistake again.
I have to tell you Nordic Tugs are well built.
I really could not believe it.
Thank you Nordic Tugs!
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Old 09-12-2017, 05:52 AM   #2
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Gayle's brother wants us to tow our Albin-25 down to Punta Gorda

It's a long tow from N Illinois in Feb for just a week on the water.
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Old 09-12-2017, 06:51 AM   #3
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It's a long tow from N Illinois in Feb for just a week on the water.


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Old 09-12-2017, 07:44 AM   #4
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Definitely a testament to robust design and construction. Also probably good that the concrete edge sawed off the line - think in the case of the 16k # tensile line suspending a good piece of the boat's weight by the cleat - the cleat would have eventually lost.

Wonderful boats. Glad you made out ok.
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Old 09-12-2017, 07:55 AM   #5
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In a bad storm, internal friction in the rope can make heat enough to separate the line all by itself I have read.
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Old 09-12-2017, 07:58 AM   #6
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I know lots of folks here on TF prepared for storm surge, but did anyone prepare for the "negative surge" event with all the water being blown out of the bays and canals?
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Good job, both you and the boat.
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Old 09-12-2017, 08:11 AM   #8
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Glad you made out ok . Love those Nordic 37's
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Old 09-12-2017, 10:44 AM   #9
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We could not agree more even our little 26 is like a tank. Hope to see you we have a place also in PGI and hoping to come down this fall via the ICW
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Old 09-13-2017, 08:14 PM   #10
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I know lots of folks here on TF prepared for storm surge, but did anyone prepare for the "negative surge" event with all the water being blown out of the bays and canals?


The out flow was the biggest surprise. The wind blew out over six feet of water and left it out for several hours. Then the storm surge that was blown in was less than 3 feet.
Not the 8-10 prediction.
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Old 09-13-2017, 08:19 PM   #11
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The out flow was the biggest surprise. The wind blew out over six feet of water and left it out for several hours. Then the storm surge that was blown in was less than 3 feet.
Not the 8-10 prediction.
I thought that was strange too. My next door neighbor sent us a video of our slip at Isles Yacht Club and it was dry as a bone.

We were tucked in for the storm at Riviera Dunes Marina in Palmetto. Still there planning to go home in the next week or two.

BTW, this is my second NT 42 and a tougher boat is not built!
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Old 09-14-2017, 12:44 AM   #12
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I know lots of folks here on TF prepared for storm surge, but did anyone prepare for the "negative surge" event with all the water being blown out of the bays and canals?


I was watching WindyTV for three days prior to the storm hitting. The wind patterns definitely showed the possibility of lowering water in Tampa Bay and its tributaries. I brought my concerns to several boating locals as well as the guys at the shipyard. To a man they all laughed and said that doesn't happen and that I need to watch out for the surge.
I convinced the guy on the other side of the floating dock though. We came up with a plan to make fast to the dock and then strap the boats to each other over the top of the dock with the idea that our boats wouldn't list over if they sat on the bottom. So the evidence showed that the water level did drop to where we were on bottom then re floated once the wind direction changed after the storm passed through. When we returned both boats were afloat without a scratch. Several of my bow lines that I had tied to an oak tree were 30% abraded where they had led down over the concrete bulkhead though.
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Old 09-14-2017, 10:42 AM   #13
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What would you habe done different? Longer lines your boat would have ended up aground, wouldn't she?
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Old 09-14-2017, 11:20 AM   #14
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I did a lot of reading and preparation. I watched television in preparation. Not one time did I ever hear of negative surge until it started happening.
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Old 09-14-2017, 11:56 AM   #15
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What would you habe done different? Longer lines your boat would have ended up aground, wouldn't she?


The only mistake was taking the inside stern line over the dock.
I should have taken it around the end or last dock piling to the left and then to the boat.
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Old 09-14-2017, 12:49 PM   #16
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I know lots of folks here on TF prepared for storm surge, but did anyone prepare for the "negative surge" event with all the water being blown out of the bays and canals?
One of the who knew consequences of all the water leaving Punta Gorda Isles is that without the push back of the water on the canal walls many seawalls collapsed taking big hunks of back yards with them. There was a front page article in today's Punta Gorda Bugle Crier newspaper saying that the city is going to have to bring in some outside help to do the repairs.

Punta Gorda Isles is sorta unique in that residents pay a yearly assessment of around $500 for canal maintenance. So, when this happens to you the city's contractor comes in with barges and crawler cranes and fixes it at no charge. This includes filling in with new dirt, re sodding the yard and replanting your usable plants and trees.
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Old 09-14-2017, 01:06 PM   #17
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Can't recall any negative comments on Nordic Tugs: only good ones.

On my steel boat if expecting it to hang free, I'd attach lines to four permanently installed eyes on the gunwale using shackles. I'd be worried about the attachments on fixed docks, however.

The eyes are an integral part of the boat. They're intended for lifting the boat, and have been used several times in movement from shore to ship and and ship to shore for shipment.
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Old 09-14-2017, 01:15 PM   #18
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Yep nothing like a steel or aluminum boat for hoisting points.

But then again, I have seen many instances of boats hanging from cleats in the salvage business...and those that have ripped out or bent and slipped off no matter the construction materials or price point.
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Cleats should never be used as lifting points. They are not designed to support the vertical weight of a vessel. Using cleats to lift during a salvage operation would be a huge red flag to me that the salvor does not understand what he is doing.
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Cleats should never be used as lifting points. They are not designed to support the vertical weight of a vessel. Using cleats to lift during a salvage operation would be a huge red flag to me that the salvor does not understand what he is doing.
No one said anything about intentionally lifting from cleats. Psneeld was talking about those that were hanging from the cleats when he arrived. I've seen boats held up by the cleats lowering the entire dock and waiting for the tow service.
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