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Old 05-27-2013, 02:39 AM   #21
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We should cut the military budget and fix our infrastructure.
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Old 05-27-2013, 02:49 AM   #22
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We should cut the military budget and fix our infrastructure.
I'm not touching that subject but I think there is a lot of waste in the roads and bridges already. There have been 4 "box" style bridges that go over little creeks and low areas that they spend millions to replace because they are out dated but the catch is there is a brand new road with a brand new bridge right next to it!! I've seen big projects for interchanges and new roads to wherever when just to fatten peoples wallets when "they" don't want to spend money on the hard projects.
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I suppose if Marin were still around he'd have choice words to add here. I guess he's "cut off" ... inconvenienced...from his boat until this is fixed.
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We should cut the military budget and fix our infrastructure.
Eric, I will not debate that issue with you. As you know where the money gets spent is a political decision. I started another thread on this subject in OTDE as I thought that discussion needed another more appropirate venue. I have been involved with this both in DC and on a local level.
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Old 05-27-2013, 09:54 AM   #26
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The Skagit bridge is outdated but considered structurally sound. I don't consider it structurally sound if a slightly oversized truck can "clip" a small part of the bridge and cause it to totally collapse. I personally can't imagine how/why it took over 50 years to happen. The number of trucks that got measured accurately and passed under the overhead structure safely must be in the trillions. I personally think installing over height detectors should be in order on many similar bridges. I don't see any other practical way to reduce the odds of this happening again. For awhile though all truck drivers will be putting much more effort into their height measurements.


Re the military budget unless I have my facts wrong we spend seventeen times as much on defense as the next nation in the world and that nation is WAY over average.
How could we possibly need seventeen to 25 times as much on the means to fight other countries as other nations? Inconceivable. And If I say anything more on this I'll start a new thread.

By the way the traffic in Mt Vernon and Burlington yesterday afternoon was amazingly light.
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Old 05-27-2013, 11:38 AM   #27
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It was a oversize load that clipped the bridge. It may of been a side support from the load being over 102" wide?
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Spy let me guess .... several trucks had hit that bridge.

I was a truck driver and went under a low bridge w a van style truck. It was very close. I stopped twice to get out and look. It cleared. I went on to deliver my load and on the return I started to slow down and then though "this is stupid". I know I clear the bridge so why slow down. A sixth sense slowed me down and half way through the truck was stuck after sorta grinding to a stop. I was going slow enough that it was no problem backing out and going around. As a truck driver I was above average w my considerable experience and college degree. But there are hoards of truck drivers out there that lacking in judgement and experience.

So how can this Skagit River bridge thing not happen again? But it is amazing that it did take as long as it did on this bridge.
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Spy let me guess .... several trucks had hit that bridge.

I was a truck driver and went under a low bridge w a van style truck. It was very close. I stopped twice to get out and look. It cleared. I went on to deliver my load and on the return I started to slow down and then though "this is stupid". I know I clear the bridge so why slow down. A sixth sense slowed me down and half way through the truck was stuck after sorta grinding to a stop. I was going slow enough that it was no problem backing out and going around. As a truck driver I was above average w my considerable experience and college degree. But there are hoards of truck drivers out there that lacking in judgement and experience.

So how can this Skagit River bridge thing not happen again? But it is amazing that it did take as long as it did on this bridge.
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DUH I became well aware of that w my bridge experience.

And one needs to think about it to make use of the knowledge.
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DUH I became well aware of that w my bridge experience.

And one needs to think about it to make use of the knowledge.
Look in your side view mirror, you will see a yellow tape stripe up the trailer with the height printed on it.

Hopefully that and the posted bridge height is correct.
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Look in your side view mirror, you will see a yellow tape stripe up the trailer with the height printed on it.

Hopefully that and the posted bridge height is correct.
Never trusted, always measured. I used to drive over-height and over-wide loads (Rogator). That said, I gave up my class 1 when I moved from Alberta to BC, as there were things like hills, curves, and bridges in this new land .
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UPDATE

For those not in the area the I-5 bridge over the Skagit river has had a temporary span in place for about a week and traffic here is back to normal. The temporary span looks very temporary and even sags a bit in the middle. For this Alaskan back to normal traffic would be congested but it's wonderful compared to the detour traffic.
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