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Old 02-17-2017, 06:57 AM   #1
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Hyundai Motor Yachts

I am currently interested in a 1992 Hyundai 53' Motor Yacht. Info on their build quality etc. is very sparse, I do know it was a South Korea company but there are only a few vessels on the net to look at.
It has 3208 Cats so I at least know something about them,
Does anyone have any info or experience with the build quality etc. ?

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Nothing of substance to offer. I had one of similar size and year a couple of slips down from me in Gulfport a couple of years ago. Was a little put off by the brand name. Wound up spending a pleasant evening aboard with the owner, who was quite happy with it after 2-3 years owning it. I recall he was a serious coastal cruiser from the Carolinas. I remember it had 3208s, a functional (to me) interior and ER layout, and poor (to me - restricted access) cockpit/deck layout.

I think the 53 is a Bill Prince design, for what that's worth. The internet sure is skinny on information for these boats.
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They are the largest ship builder in Korea, but as for small boats, not a clue.

Hopefully on 2018 I'll be there and check for you.
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Thanks,
Some of the things I liked were only two staterooms and both have full bath facilities,,, front bed is a queen and aft is a King,,,, first King size so far,,,,, some were called queens, but actually were only full or double size.
Some of the other vessels this length all had three staterooms. We have been looking for larger two stateroom layout.
I am just concerned with the age and bottom / hull quality.
The aft deck does have a strange look to it,, but then again it has sliding windows instead of canvas. A plus in my mind. Still have a hard time understanding $5000 for a canvas.
I am searching DIA, Hyundai, Sonata and not coming up with much. Those were some of the designations I see in the pics.
I am also leery of the name, but the vessel looks very solid,,,,,, wonder how many others have thought that before they committed.
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Damn WXX,,, I am envious,,, wish I had the nads to run that far. I love your Kadey, we just want to do the coastline and relax.
I think Hyundai is just in the huge vessels now as previously stated. I wish I could get more info on how long they made these yachts.
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There is one for sale in Long Beach, Ca on Boat Trader - interesting looking.
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There are a couple on the net for sale, but not much as far as info.
I thought they were kind of dumpy looking at first,,,, but the design is working on me.

Just got off the phone with Bill Prince Designs,,, and he said they did a 63' fishing boat design for Hyundai,, but was never built. He did not have anything to do with this 53' but is going to do some checking to see what he can find on the history.
I thought that was pretty good of him.
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Greetings,
Welcome aboard Tom A.
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Old 02-17-2017, 04:34 PM   #9
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Thanks, hope to see some of you on the waves in the near future.
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There was a 48 for sale about four years ago at Tellico marina. The owner started at 200k ended up giving it away for 75k. Nothing wrong with the boat that I know. Present owner uses it on the TVA waters and since he is on my dock I would know if he was having any problems with the boat. Go for it if it feels good.
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That is funny,,, We use to rock climb with Suzuki Samarai's in Tellico before they closed it down.
I drove to Sweetwater Tenn. to look at a 45' Searay. Some great water in the TVA.

So far all the info is like yourself, from folks that have seen or been on a Hyundai but so far no one that has owned one, or even heard of any issues with them,,, a little scary, but I think it is what we are looking for at this point.
I plan to dive the boat to see what the bottom looks like,,, struts and props etc. Not sure if the zincs have been kept up.
If it looks OK I am going to take it.
This whole trawling deal is new to us,,,,,, we have a 21' Blown big block jetboat, and a 30' Cigarette.
Now this will be like a floating RV. Got to start somewhere,,,,,,
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Oh, we did like the 48' Californian, and 44 Gulfstar,,,,, just did not find any in this area.
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A Hyundai 53 was recently sold in Sydney. First I knew they existed.
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Never owned one but if dock gossip is worth anything, it is my understanding that they were cored below the water line, something that I think a builder like Hyundai should have known better. I was also told their sojourn into the small yacht market was short lived as they simply could not make money on them. Other than the cored hull, I have never heard anything negative about them. The aft sundeck is a little odd looking. Hopefully someone who owns one will chime in here, out of curiosity I too would be interested in the full story behind them.
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Unreliable memory says Yamaha sold made sailboats, they were sold here too.
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Yamaha also made/makes pianos, guitars and electronics...
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Well, I just found my answer in some old boating magazine articles by searching "Elegant Yachts International by Hyundai". They are all Termanto foam core hulls, even below the water line, and advertise "no wood".
After reading David Pascoe's piece on cored hulls vs Balsa I am discouraged with the Hyundai.
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Well, I just found my answer in some old boating magazine articles by searching "Elegant Yachts International by Hyundai". They are all Termanto foam core hulls, even below the water line, and advertise "no wood".
After reading David Pascoe's piece on cored hulls vs Balsa I am discouraged with the Hyundai.
So you think a good foam core that is impervious to moisture is automatically worse that a soft wood that has serious issues when exposed to moisture?

I wouldn't dismiss them just on that basis. I'd want to examine the boat and if interested get it survey. If it was today's level of coring technology I'd feel better about it than years ago. Still there are many factors including the amount of glass, the other materials and the quality of coring.
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Yamaha also made/makes pianos, guitars and electronics...
Yamaha actually started as a musical instrument manufacturer. The Yamaha logo is tuning forks. They started in 1897 and didn't build any machinery until WW II and their first motorcycle was sold in 1954. Only then did they start Yamaha Motor Co.
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Yes, that is my concern,,, in the early 90's most of the Asian trawlers mid 80's were still looking good, laminate issues probably did not start showing up until 10 years or so.
Now these boats have 30 years of soaking and lots of abuse from lack of bottom cleaning and painting, storms etc.
I just wonder if Hyundai had enough history with coring to really do a great job. Most of these yachts are always out in the elements and from what I read, heat also degrades the coring material worse than balsa.
Like you say, I am going to look at it hard and see if any lamination issues are showing. Bottom is another story,,,, definitely have to haul it to check.
All of these issues have never been a concern for us, since our boats are always flushed and garaged when not in use.
Like I said before,,, this trawler thing is a whole different ballgame and just getting our feet wet,,,,,,,,, Lots to learn.
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