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Old 06-08-2013, 06:48 AM   #121
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I dug up this old thread to compare my girl's bottom to Eric's Willard. Not much difference other than the small bilge keels on mine.

I love a nicely rounded bottom.
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Old 06-08-2013, 09:53 AM   #122
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Hey, that's a curvy lady. I know nothing about the Cuddles 30, but searched for whatever I could when your Avatar first appeared. Very nice boat. I wonder how Eric feels about the round port window.
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Old 06-08-2013, 10:18 AM   #123
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I like the boat a lot .. but you guessed it .. not the round port.

Actually the hull is a bit hard to see w the black paint and underexposure but it looks just about exactly like the Willard except that not as deep. Probably not as heavy. Willy draws 3.5' and is 8 tons. Often to most of the time I wish she was half way in between the Albin 25 and the W-30. And that looks to be what a Cuddles is.

I worked up some pics of the before and after of my "port" window in my aft bulkhead door. In my opinion the original round port looked absolutely stupid. And my visibility aft was not good either. Could hardly wait to get rid of it.

The Cuddles should be more stable feeling and a bit more easily driven w her considerably less wetted surface. And obviously having more room inside. And perhaps aft too. The roll will be quicker and the landing into a head sea will be more abrupt. Willy looks better I think but w the right equipment on board I'd trade mostly to get the wide body. I'd trade for a W-30 Voyager first though and the boat I really want is a Nordic Tug 32.
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Old 06-08-2013, 10:25 AM   #124
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Old 06-08-2013, 10:30 AM   #125
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Actually the hull is a bit hard to see w the black paint and underexposure.......
This is a little better!
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Old 06-08-2013, 10:43 AM   #126
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A curvy bottom deserves a curvy port window.

HH - the Cuddles are an Aussie boat built in the early 80's based on a Norwegian design. They built a 30ft and a 35ft "Resort" version, although this may be the only one which was fitted out as a motor sailor.
Hard to get much information on them but, but I found an old newspaper article featuring what appears to be this boat, which was shown in 1984 Sydney Boat show. The company shut down production shortly after.

I'm just beginning to realize that I fluked upon a great little boat.
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Old 06-08-2013, 11:11 AM   #127
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Thank you Walt.

Cuddles looks a bit deeper now and I think the overall shape of the hull is more similar to the W-36 ... my favorite Willard hull designed by William Garden. See Island Seeker (post 124) by Brooksie. The W-36 is more shipy both in hull and cabin. Her angle of entry is much wider and her disp per foot is (I'll guess) much higher. Wish Willard had made a 32' version of the 36. But the W-30 is still the best looking both fore and aft.

AusCan,
You did indeed " fluke upon a great little boat." I think the reason you see the round port here and there is that it is perceived as being more nautical. And I'll say that your round port looks much better than mine did.
I may recall the Norwegian boat of origin .... was it lapstrake in design? Seems to me a great many Dutch, Norwegian and Swedish boats had the very same general look as your Cuddles. Does the stem aft have a reverse rake? Many many Dutch boats did. Not sure why.

Brooksie,
Are you presently using your 5 bladed prop? Do you think it's smooth? Mine wasn't.
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Old 06-08-2013, 11:13 AM   #128
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New to the forum and I like this thread so here are a couple of photo's of our 46 Nordhavn's bottom. The black paint makes it a little hard to see but it's similar to the Willard posted earlier. Smooth and round.

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Eric - I never did find out exactly what Norwegian bat it originated from.

The cuddles draws 3ft 2" and weighs in at about 7 1/2 tons, so perhaps its not quite as deep as the Willard.


Ahhh - so many nice butts on this thread.
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Old 06-08-2013, 12:52 PM   #130
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AusCan,
Glad you posted that .... much closer than I thought.

fosborne,
Yes and I'm flattered you think so. I agree and consider the two boats to have much in common. In many ways the N-46 is a great big W-30. One thing they share that I don't like is their very raked stem. With a stem near vertical both boats would not suffer from the increased wetted surface but would be better off w the longer WLL. To the extent that less power would probably be required for much the same reasons as a bulbous bow. Wouldn't turn as quick though. More directional stability would also result but the Willard seems not to be in need there.
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Old 06-08-2013, 01:37 PM   #131
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Here are some pictures of Island Eagle up on the ways. The last one shows Jesse of Nanaimo Shipyards getting ready to cast in place the prop zinc, and it gives you a good idea of the scale.
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Old 06-08-2013, 02:09 PM   #132
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Old 06-08-2013, 03:47 PM   #133
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Here are some pictures of Island Eagle up on the ways. The last one shows Jesse of Nanaimo Shipyards getting ready to cast in place the prop zinc, and it gives you a good idea of the scale.
Now... there's a bottom to show your brother!

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Old 06-08-2013, 04:58 PM   #134
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As you can see full planing, high speed hull, not.

Very sail boatish without the drought.
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Old 06-08-2013, 05:29 PM   #135
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Scott,

I wouldn't call her "sailboatish" at all. Full displacement to be sure and probably the most efficient boat here on the forum. Firefly has a very slippery hull. She's a looker too.

Island Eagle w her much higher displacement and high buttock line angle (angle of the rake of the stern) is also very much a full displacement craft. Neither boat is more or less a full disp craft but Firefly is considerably more efficient.

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I have a 5 bladed prop like yours (much smaller of course(19"dia)) and it isn't as smooth as any of the 3 blade props I've used (3 I think). Any ideas as to why that is?
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Old 06-08-2013, 07:10 PM   #136
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I'd trade for a W-30 Voyager first though and the boat I really want is a Nordic Tug 32.
My 13 year old daughter was looking over my shoulder and saw the photos of Willy. She loves it and she would consider trading Northern Spy for your boat. I really like the Voyager myself.
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This is from my old boat a 1981 CA 34.
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34' 1977 Tolly Tri Cabin's Bottom Butt!

Sleek & Fast... but - nowhere near as sexy looking as “Full D" boats' butts!!

Ain't got bulging "bottom breasts" round-about amidships either - LOL
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Old 06-08-2013, 10:39 PM   #139
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Spy,
You're 26 NT is probably worth considerably more than Willy but I want the 32 anyway. Yes the Voyager is best but it has a small cockpit. Fact is I've put so much new stuff including fuel tanks and engine I couldn't afford to sell her.

Why do so many guys paint their boat bottoms black? A guy in Craig AK said black bottoms don't foul as easily. Can't buy that.
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Old 06-08-2013, 10:41 PM   #140
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I like the boat a lot .. but you guessed it .. not the round port.
Hmmm. The square window you did on your aft door is definitely an improvement, Eric. Have you seen other 30 owners following suit?

Scott: Firefly is one of my favorites. I knew the hull was efficient but have you kept track of your GPH?
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