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Old 11-15-2013, 06:09 AM   #261
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>While his points alone have some validity...like most things in life when you put them all together...they just don't hold water....or float as the case ay be...<

Like most sales BS , it is written for the wannabee that has never opened a boat book, or even been aboard a boat.

Remember years ago Cruising World didnt bother with a tech editor for its nonsense articles .
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Old 11-16-2013, 08:18 PM   #262
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Old 01-19-2017, 09:30 PM   #263
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...interesting hull shape on this trawler listed for sale..

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It was built on an English commercial fishing hull design intended for the North Sea, with a deep full keel, 70% bilge keels of 12” steel plate, plus Standing Chocks extending midship from the bilge keels. The Standing Chocks act as fixed stabilizers, extending roughly 3 feet beyond the bilge keels at a 45 degree angel, and are sufficiently built to permit the vessel to stand on them during extreme low tides as are experienced in northern latitudes.
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Old 01-19-2017, 10:05 PM   #264
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I knew a propeller man that thought lots of rake on a prop was the road to efficency. This one's got lots of rake.
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Old 01-19-2017, 10:12 PM   #265
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Old 01-19-2017, 11:10 PM   #266
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[QUOTE=brian eiland;515439][FONT=Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif]...interesting hull shape on this trawler listed for sale..

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Brian,
I have spent many a moment oggling that ship. She always shows up in my searches since I usually am only searching steel. Interesting bottom for sure. So flat in the lower section and then steep chine from there.
Some similarities to boat I ended up buying for sure but some significant differences in the lower section. She is 54' at the waterline,140,000# drawing 7 feet and I am 52' at the waterline, 120,000# and drawing 6 feet. This is interesting in terms of the difference in shape low as I am much less flat to the first chine. Sorry about the pictures, you really have to zoom in to discern the hull shape well on the views in the cradles.
I have the bilge keels though mine have pipes in them for the keel cooler, but no standing chocks. Also I am canoe sterned and Lone Wolf is not I think.
Sure would be cool to have both in the same seaway and compare the ride.
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Old 01-19-2017, 11:49 PM   #267
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Old 01-20-2017, 12:23 AM   #268
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[FONT=Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif]...interesting hull shape on this trawler listed for sale..

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Brian,
I have spent many a moment oggling that ship. She always shows up in my searches since I usually am only searching steel. Interesting bottom for sure. So flat in the lower section and then steep chine from there.
Some similarities to boat I ended up buying for sure but some significant differences in the lower section. She is 54' at the waterline,140,000# drawing 7 feet and I am 52' at the waterline, 120,000# and drawing 6 feet. This is interesting in terms of the difference in shape low as I am much less flat to the first chine. Sorry about the pictures, you really have to zoom in to discern the hull shape well on the views in the cradles.
I have the bilge keels though mine have pipes in them for the keel cooler, but no standing chocks. Also I am canoe sterned and Lone Wolf is not I think.
Sure would be cool to have both in the same seaway and compare the ride.
I was interested in that 'flatter hull shape' and appendages for possible inclusion on an alternative Pilgrim trawler redsign.
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Old 01-20-2017, 12:37 AM   #270
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Old 01-20-2017, 03:21 AM   #271
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...interesting hull shape on this trawler listed for sale..

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I know this boat we visited her long time ago when she was for sale in Hull (England) by the former builder/owner.
At this moment the boat was, blue, empty, just some thing in wheelhouse, and the big rebuilt Gardner 8 cylinder, and the lateral door still the same one .
But the first owner put a big amount of ...concrete under the floor of the forward cabin ...And concrete in steel boat it is a big mistake
We hesitate to buy her, and finally don't.
I am not a designer but when I look the bottom it seams be to "flat" and may be it make chock at sea. Unfortunately we have not the photos taken at this moment but we just (may be )remember her original name : OBERON
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Old 01-20-2017, 09:47 AM   #273
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Here are some photos from the survey of my new "Trawler" around Thanksgiving. Pretty old-school with a deep forefoot, lots of flair and a good amount of deadrise aft. Pretty fast, good in the rougher stuff and dry, but, thirsty. The recessed tabs are large and really effective and the close-quarters handling is superb.

Day and night difference from my previous trawler, Boomarang. I'm pretty happy so far
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Old 01-21-2017, 09:07 PM   #275
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Looks kike you've got two rudders aft w the prop well fwd.
Interesting anchor. Looks like a Danforth put isn't .. I think.
Your windows on the side of your cabin look like a trawler/cruiser that was fairly heavily advertised about 8 years ago.
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Looks kike you've got two rudders aft w the prop well fwd.
Interesting anchor. Looks like a Danforth put isn't .. I think.
Your windows on the side of your cabin look like a trawler/cruiser that was fairly heavily advertised about 8 years ago.
No mainly for economic $$$$ reasons we have just one ruder; like old displacement yachts had and it work.
The anchor is a "Britany" 90 kgs with 120 m of 14mm chain (to long but it was cheaper to buy one length of 120 m than 100 m )

May be it was our on the advertise , we got customer, he want the boat , he agree with the price...for very minor detail we refuse to sell to him (may be we love too much our baby ) Because from the first drawing we made up to now ..it is 24 years of our life !
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Sure glad you've still got William Marty.
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