Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 09-02-2019, 07:27 AM   #1
Guru
 
Russell Clifton's Avatar
 
City: Anacortes Wa.
Country: usa
Vessel Name: Sea Fever
Vessel Model: Defever 49 RPH
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 573
How will you deal with something like this?

Thank God we don't have much in the way of severe weather here in the PNW, occasionally a big wind storm, but nothing like those folks on the east coast. But we do have earth quakes, and they say there is a big one coming.

Saw is on the local news this week. Not going to put the boat up for sale, but since we live on the boat full time, it makes you stop and think.

__________________
Advertisement

Russell Clifton is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-02-2019, 08:13 AM   #2
Guru
 
Gulf Comanche's Avatar
 
City: Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Country: U.S.A.
Vessel Name: Old School
Vessel Model: 38' Trawler custom built by Hike Metal Products
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 918
If the big one does come, what would happen? Whole cities swallowed, gigantic waves rolling in from the sea?
__________________

Gulf Comanche is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-02-2019, 08:22 AM   #3
Senior Member
 
Portage_Bay's Avatar
 
City: Coupeville Wa.
Country: United States
Vessel Name: Pelorus
Vessel Model: Californian 42 LRC
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 453
It's an interesting puzzle to think about but I'm not going to worry about it too much. The "Big One" is coming. But is that tomorrow? Next week? Next 500 yrs?

I'm thinking a full time liveaboard in Anacortes could be in a better position than many others if you're on the boat when it happens. I've ridden out a couple of lesser quakes onboard, it's a wild ride. So much will depend upon the boat surviving the initial shock or not. Assuming the boat survives and the marina's channels are not blocked I'd head for deeper water immediately. You'll be on your own, think of it as an extended cruise.

If you're off the boat you'll be in the same situation as everyone else. Trying to survive falling power poles, trees and buildings. Trying to get around among the chaos. If you're off Fidalgo Island you won't be able to get to the boat due to bridges being down.

You can worry and plan as much as you want but luck will determine your and your boat's initial survival. After that your resourcefulness and resilience will matter.

I remember the "Three days, three ways" campaign that was around years ago. Be prepared to look after yourself for 3 days. Well, when the big one hits 3 days won't be nearly enough.
Portage_Bay is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 09-02-2019, 09:20 AM   #4
Guru
 
AlaskaProf's Avatar
 
City: Tacoma, WA & Ashland, OR
Country: US of A
Vessel Name: SEEADLER
Vessel Model: RAWSON 41
Join Date: Jun 2016
Posts: 944
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gulf Comanche View Post
If the big one does come, what would happen? Whole cities swallowed, gigantic waves rolling in from the sea?
In the Seattle and Tacoma areas, the "Big One" will include a wall of pyroclastic lava/ash/snowmelt flowing down the Duwamish and Puyallup rivers from what used to be Mount Rainier, scouring the landscape and igniting all combustibles. Little need for survival planning; little survival.

Russell, up there in Anacortes, may escape the worst of it if the winds carry the ash plume away. But he will need to fight off the million or so starving zombies fleeing northward.
Fortunately I plan to be home in Southern Oregon that day.
AlaskaProf is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-02-2019, 09:22 AM   #5
Guru
 
dhays's Avatar
 
City: Gig Harbor
Country: United States
Vessel Name: Kinship
Vessel Model: North Pacific 43
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 8,261
My plan is to keep the boat with enough fuel and water that I can have heat and power for at least a couple weeks. The only issue, since I donít live aboard, is to make it to the boat. Iím hoping that the Narrows Bridge will survive a large quake so I can get across, even if we have to walk or bike.

I may be naive, but Iím not worried about tsunamis this deep into the South Sound.
__________________
Regards,

Dave
SPOT page
dhays is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-02-2019, 09:27 AM   #6
Guru
 
Gulf Comanche's Avatar
 
City: Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Country: U.S.A.
Vessel Name: Old School
Vessel Model: 38' Trawler custom built by Hike Metal Products
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 918
Think I’ll stick w/ hurricanes.
Gulf Comanche is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-02-2019, 10:02 AM   #7
Guru
 
Russell Clifton's Avatar
 
City: Anacortes Wa.
Country: usa
Vessel Name: Sea Fever
Vessel Model: Defever 49 RPH
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 573
Can't seem to get the link attached.

http://https://youtu.be/e5PJQW_6k6M

Russell Clifton is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-02-2019, 10:03 AM   #8
Guru
 
O C Diver's Avatar
 
City: Fort Myers, FL... Summers in Crisfield, MD
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Slow Hand
Vessel Model: Cherubini Independence 45
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 7,424
It's an interesting question. Personally, I think I'd like to be a couple of locks up from the ocean in a deep lake. Lake Superior comes to mind.

Second choice would be a very long large tidal river with modest flows and many turns. The Hudson river well above New York city or the Saint Johns river well above Jacksonville. The Okeechobee waterway on either side of the lake would also be good.

Ted
__________________
Blog: mvslowhand.com
I'm tired of fast moves, I've got a slow groove, on my mind.....
I want to spend some time, Not come and go in a heated rush.....
"Slow Hand" by The Pointer Sisters
O C Diver is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 09-02-2019, 01:27 PM   #9
Guru
 
City: Between Oregon and Alaska
Country: US
Vessel Name: Charlie Harper
Vessel Model: Wheeler Shipyard 83'
Join Date: Jun 2016
Posts: 1,527
Many years ago a couple fishing boats anchored for the night in a bay behind a spit protecting them from the ocean swells. A large land slide in the bay caused a wave that picked up the boats, anchors and all. The crews awoke on the ocean about a 1/4 mile out. In Alaska, but don't remember where, 1970s or 80s.
Lepke is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-02-2019, 02:01 PM   #10
GFC
Guru
 
GFC's Avatar
 
City: Tri Cities, WA
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Beachcomber
Vessel Model: Sea Ray 550 Sedan Bridge
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 3,575
We're about 350 miles up the Columbia from the Pacific so I'm not worried about any issues here. We do have kids in the Seattle area so that is a concern. They're not as concerned about a big earthquake or tsunami as they are about the nuclear powered power generating station that's about 15 or so miles north of us.


The way I look at things like this is I can't go through my life worrying about when or where or how my death is going to come. If I did it would drive me crazy.
__________________
Mike and Tina
Beachcomber 1995 Sea Ray 550 Sedan Bridge
GFC is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-02-2019, 02:26 PM   #11
Guru
 
Ken E.'s Avatar
 
City: Bellingham WA
Country: United States
Vessel Name: Hatt Trick
Vessel Model: 45' Hatteras Convertible
Join Date: Nov 2016
Posts: 895
And then there is the 1958 Lituya Bay Alaska Tsunami, triggered by a 7.8 earthquake. A huge amount of rock was released at the head of the bay causing one of the biggest tsunamis known to have ever occurred. There was even an eye witness survivor to tell the tale.

Bill, you've gone right by Lituya on your trips to Prince William Sound. Not too far from Yakatat.

Lepke, I think this is the event you're referring to.


https://earthquake.alaska.edu/60-yea...ay-megatsunami
__________________
Ken on Hatt Trick
Ken E. is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-02-2019, 02:59 PM   #12
Guru
 
dhays's Avatar
 
City: Gig Harbor
Country: United States
Vessel Name: Kinship
Vessel Model: North Pacific 43
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 8,261
Very interesting modeling. Makes me thing that my complacency is ill placed.
__________________
Regards,

Dave
SPOT page
dhays is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-02-2019, 04:58 PM   #13
Guru
 
AlaskaProf's Avatar
 
City: Tacoma, WA & Ashland, OR
Country: US of A
Vessel Name: SEEADLER
Vessel Model: RAWSON 41
Join Date: Jun 2016
Posts: 944
Quote:
...Lituya Bay...
We were well offshore, but I have flown over it at low altitude several times. The avalanche ran down a mountain side and hit the water with such force that the tsunami scar reaches about 1200 feet up the mountain facing across the bay.
AlaskaProf is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-02-2019, 05:51 PM   #14
Guru
 
AlaskaProf's Avatar
 
City: Tacoma, WA & Ashland, OR
Country: US of A
Vessel Name: SEEADLER
Vessel Model: RAWSON 41
Join Date: Jun 2016
Posts: 944
Quote:
Originally Posted by dhays View Post
My plan is...Iím hoping that the Narrows Bridge will survive a large quake so I can get across, even if we have to walk or bike.

O...kay.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	narrows.png
Views:	49
Size:	165.0 KB
ID:	93181  
AlaskaProf is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-02-2019, 11:11 PM   #15
Guru
 
IRENE's Avatar
 
City: Port Angeles, WA
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Irene
Join Date: Jan 2016
Posts: 705
Russell,

If we were aboard and had some warning, I would prefer to be underway and in deep water. I would not sit at the marina and hope for the best outcome. We would need an hour notice.

We had a seismic event with a potential tsunami scenario about 2 years ago. I thought about the boat and the options it presented, but ended up going to work instead. Ended up there was no development of a tsunami, but it was a good drill.
__________________
Jeff
MV IRENE
IRENE is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-02-2019, 11:48 PM   #16
Guru
 
dhays's Avatar
 
City: Gig Harbor
Country: United States
Vessel Name: Kinship
Vessel Model: North Pacific 43
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 8,261
Quote:
Originally Posted by AlaskaProf View Post
O...kay.


LOL, yeah but the first bridge collapsed due to about 42 mph winds. Weíre only talking about a measly magnitude 9.0 earthquake.
__________________
Regards,

Dave
SPOT page
dhays is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-03-2019, 02:49 AM   #17
Guru
 
BruceK's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 9,828
We had a tsunami warning a few years back. Despite warnings not to approach Sydney Harbor because of the danger, we walked down to the Bay where the boat was moored on a mooring ball (as we were then) and set up camp on a high point we hoped was high enough, to wait and watch until tsunami arrival time.

Absolutely nothing happened. I`ve no doubt the Rivercats (cat hulled fast twin engine secret underwater tsunami generator ferries designed on the back of a beer coaster in the Maritime Minister`s Office) continued wreaking havoc on the foreshores, but where we were, zip, nada, zilch. Very disappointing.
__________________
BruceK
Island Gypsy 36 Europa "Doriana"
Sydney Australia
BruceK is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-03-2019, 10:30 AM   #18
Newbie
 
City: Virginia
Country: USA
Join Date: Sep 2019
Posts: 1
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gulf Comanche View Post
If the big one does come, what would happen? Whole cities swallowed, gigantic waves rolling in from the sea?
I was a live aboard in the L.A. Harbor when the Northridge earthquake hit in 1994. It was a magnitude 6.7 that occurred on January 17, 1994, at 4:30:55 a.m.

As most know, when you're asleep on a boat it pitches and yaws in an almost soothing manner and after years of living on a boat you don't even think about the motion of the boat.

But on January 17, 1994 it was like the hand of God reached down and picked my boat straight up and then pushed it straight back down into the water. This went on for a few cycles before the violence returned to the more normal pitching and yawing I was used to except it was massively more animated.

I got out of bed, looked out the companionway hatch and all the telephone poles in the marina were rocking back and forth, the car alarms were screaming from the parking lot, and the transformers on the power lines off in the distance were exploding from the power lines touching and shorting out. The sea water was sloshing up and over the banks and the docks were like a fun-house roller coaster.

It was memorable.
Shenandoah52 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-03-2019, 10:56 AM   #19
Guru
 
dhays's Avatar
 
City: Gig Harbor
Country: United States
Vessel Name: Kinship
Vessel Model: North Pacific 43
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 8,261
From the simulations, I would have about 2 hours to get to my boat and get out of Gig Harbor. From there, I would head south. Once south of the Narrows, there would be any number of places that I could wait out the next 2-3 hours of tsunami effects and then see how much damage the rest of the infrastructure of the region sustained.



Based on that modeling, Gig Harbor likely could sustain over 10' of rise and fall of the sea level. If it occurs during a high tide, the floating docks will go above the pilings. If it occurs at a low tide, I could be sitting on the bottom. Sitting on the bottom would be preferable.
__________________
Regards,

Dave
SPOT page
dhays is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-03-2019, 11:19 AM   #20
Guru
 
South of Heaven's Avatar
 
City: Sharon, Ma
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Slow Lane
Vessel Model: 2005 Silverton 35 Motoryacht
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 931
Just listen to some Buffet or Grateful Dead and you'll be fine......
__________________

__________________
Jason

2005 Silverton 35 Motoryacht
South of Heaven is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



» Trawler Discussions


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:12 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2006 - 2012