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Old 08-22-2013, 04:43 PM   #21
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"I am going to start right out by saying that I realize I am treading all over one of this forum's sacred cows in my horrible, greasy, semi planing boots."

Me too, but these trawler people are gentle folks and quite tollerant if you don't wake them too bad when passing them. Just don't get mixed up with those sailboat people!They're nuts!

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Old 08-22-2013, 04:54 PM   #22
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Me too, but these trawler people are gentle folks and quite tollerant if you don't wake them too bad when passing them. ...
Or at least warn/signal us before you pass by!

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Old 08-22-2013, 05:39 PM   #23
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I meant to warn you about Mark. He's got a little sailor in him. Who puts a sail on a perfectly good trawler? He's also got a pretty little green dinghy that should have a sail but doesn't. The man is confused.
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Old 08-22-2013, 06:26 PM   #24
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That makes (at least) two of us! Maybe we should start a church?.....er, no, I guess that doesn't fit.
3 of us at least, however I did have to look up Animistic....


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Old 08-22-2013, 06:34 PM   #25
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My brother's 40 Ocean sportfish has a min speed of around 4 knots at idle. He keeps it about a mile and a half up a narrow canal lined with docks and boats. A few grumpy retirees with too much time on their hands (see what I did there? :-)) complain that he is throwing a wake. He has to coast by their houses in neutral. It gets pretty dicey sometimes.

In my opinion he is far more likely to damage their small boats or empty docks by accidently running into them while attempting to transit the canal without power than he is with his very small wake at 4 knots. But who am I to judge?
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Old 08-22-2013, 06:35 PM   #26
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3 of us at least, however I did have to look up Animistic....

There are lots of us, it's just that we aren't very well organized...yet;

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Old 08-22-2013, 06:37 PM   #27
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I meant to warn you about Mark. ... The man is confused.
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Old 08-22-2013, 07:03 PM   #28
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Ain't no way to rationalize anything about a boat unless you are Noah and built an ark. If you like it and can afford it then do it. Go fast, go slow, stay on the hook, or at an expensive dock. Don't even try to explain it to a landlubber. If you own a boat you are crazy by definition. We live aboard and are beyond crazy so there.
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Old 08-22-2013, 07:06 PM   #29
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I really only have two options, slow and slower. If I put the boat up to the max continuous rpm (2200) I am doing around 7.5 knots and burning 4-5 gph. If I drop back to 1500 rpm, I am doing around 5 knots at 1.2 gph. The fastest cruise I like to sustain is 1700 rpm at 2 gph and 6 knots. That's used to meet a schedule or to get out of the weather. So my typical choice is 5 or 6 knots. This summer we covered 2568 statute miles on 538 gals of fuel with around 450 hours on the engine (the hour meter broke on the first leg). That made the average speed 5.5 mph, with a fuel burn of 1.22 gph, for overall economy of 4.77 mpg.
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Old 08-22-2013, 08:39 PM   #31
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Doug, you are at a stage in life where you have more money than time. You and your wife are both working, bringing in income. That makes your time limited.

For you right now going quicker more often is the right thing to do.

At some point things will change. You will retire and have more time than money. Then you might choose to go slower, enjoy the sights more, and save some money on fuel costs.

Some here have indicated that fuel costs are a small part of boating. That is correct if you are a weekender, but not if you choose a cruising lifestyle in retirement. Then the difference in fuel costs over the long term can be staggering.
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Do many trawler owners take the pursuit of as little fuel burn as possible too far? Yes!

My thought was "why bother leaving the dock? Stay there and burn nothing at all.

Are you sacrificing enjoyment of your time on the water to save just a few dollars on fuel?
I agree! Too much emphasis is placed on slowing way down to save fuel. When we drive our cars, most of us go the speed limit or more but when we get in our boats, then we decide it's time to save money???

Yes, too much is made of seeing who has the least fuel burn. I'm not impressed with any of it.
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Old 08-22-2013, 10:14 PM   #34
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Transiting a no-wake zone (within 200 feet of a docked boat, etcetera) at a bit over 4 knots must be a pain.
I just about blew beer out my nose on that one!
You OBVIOUSLY have never seen SeaRay operators running on the Columbia!... no wake zone?? what no wake zone?? oh wait ... I WAS a SeaRay owner until recently!...


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Old 08-22-2013, 10:39 PM   #36
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Walt wrote;

"I agree! Too much emphasis is placed on slowing way down to save fuel."

I agree w that too. Many do it just because lots of other guys are doing it. Kind of a fad. When the prices of FD boats goes up because of their good fuel burn rates I'll know it's a "real" problem.

As to how slow is too slow in the fall in SE Alaska we had a big problem getting where we wanted and more or less needed to go because of limited daylight hours. I'll run in the dark from time to time but not on a regular basis. It would take 2 days to go from Thorne Bay to Petersburg but if the tide was not right it took even 3 days. At some point in the winter the whole tide run was in one direction and then w my 6 knot boat we just couldn't make it at all.

But during the summer 6.15 knots has never been a problem. But one must be patient to go 2 knots sog for over 2 hours at a time. So re the OP 6.15 knots is not too slow for us. Except in the winter in SE Alaska. And we are no longer there.
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Old 08-23-2013, 12:56 AM   #38
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Nobody mentioned range. When I cruised my 40knt boat, at 24knts my whole trip was planned around my next fuel stop. Now when I cruise my 10knt boat at six knts, I can cover close to 4000 miles between fuel stops. I go where I want to go, not to the next fuel. Slow
speed is limiting if you are a weekend boater, but then that's why they make Sea Rays and Bayliners. In fact one of those fuel efficient 60' Fountain cruisers that can knock 60 plus knts just might be the ultimate weekend warrior . This weekend I was doing 60mph on the levee when one of the go fast cruisers past me by at least 15mph. Pretty good looking crew as well. Oh well, I guess you can't have it all.
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... This weekend I was doing 60mph on the levee ...
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I agree! Too much emphasis is placed on slowing way down to save fuel. When we drive our cars, most of us go the speed limit or more but when we get in our boats, then we decide it's time to save money???

An extra 5mph in a car going over 55mphis small , an extra 20 mph is onlt about 10% bigger burn..so what?

The difference between 6K and 10K may be 300% in fuel burn.
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