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Old 03-07-2016, 01:06 PM   #1
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How many are too many

I have a family outing come up on the boat and don't want to leave any one out, but am concerned about over loading the boat. The boat is 41 ft x 13ft single diesel and looking at 12 people on board. What do you think.
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Old 03-07-2016, 01:35 PM   #2
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What does the coast guard sticker say for capacity?
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Old 03-07-2016, 01:38 PM   #3
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just my opinion, but I don't see 12 people being a safety issue. But it will Seem crowed
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Old 03-07-2016, 01:39 PM   #4
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No stickers for a boat that size usually only 20 and below....and even the loading formula is more for smaller open boats.


Under the U.S. Coast Guard Federal Boat Safety Act of 1971, boats less than 20 feet powered with an inboard, outboard, or stern drive engine manufactured after November 1, 1972, must display a capacity plate defining the safe load limits. This plate must be mounted where you can see it when preparing to get underway. Sailboats, canoes, kayaks and inflatable boats are exempt from this standard states do have statutes prohibiting the carriage of people and gear in excess of the stated capacity, or the installation of a motor that exceeds the recommended horse power limit. Also, you may void your insurance policy if you are found to have exceeded the limits stated on your capacity plate.



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Old 03-07-2016, 01:47 PM   #5
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How many can you herd at once? Legally, no more than you have life preservers for since you're over the 27 foot length (I think that is the cut-off).

The truth of the matter is How many do you want to be responsible for?
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Old 03-07-2016, 01:53 PM   #6
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If the weather is nice, and you have enough certified PFDs for everyone on board, it shouldn't be a problem. If the weather is poor, wet, cold (ie typical for us this time of year) it could be a bit crowded inside. If you have a full enclosure behind your saloon, then it wouldn't be so bad.

This assumes of course that your family all get along, don't drink too much, and have good personal hygiene habits. ;-)
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Old 03-07-2016, 02:30 PM   #7
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How many can you herd at once? Legally, no more than you have life preservers for since you're over the 27 foot length (I think that is the cut-off).

The truth of the matter is How many do you want to be responsible for?
??????????.... no matter what size vessel.... you have to have preservers for all on board and they have to be the correct size and type for the activity. There is no "cutoff" that I know of.
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If I recall my boating class correctly, Boats 27' and less has a capacity plate not to be exceeded, above that, they assume you're smart enough to know what it can handle.

As the captain, you're responsible for them, so you decide.
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What will be the ratio of children to adults? Children need lots of supervision.
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Old 03-07-2016, 03:18 PM   #10
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No children just adults, short ride on protected waters.
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Old 03-07-2016, 04:01 PM   #11
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If I recall my boating class correctly, Boats 27' and less has a capacity plate not to be exceeded, above that, they assume you're smart enough to know what it can handle.

As the captain, you're responsible for them, so you decide.
20 feet....post #4 has a reference...
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20 feet....post #4 has a reference...
Oh, didn't see that. Been too many years I guess...

According to that, I can mount a 40hp johnson on my 16' canoe and load up a few people? NOT!
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Old 03-07-2016, 04:28 PM   #13
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No children just adults, short ride on protected waters.
Then you should be fine, with the correct number of PFD's and properly informed guests that is.
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I think its very reasonable to consider this question. I mean, nobody wants to put guests and their boat in danger. Every year I have a bunch of friends from work on my boat. We stay in the river unless its VERY calm outside and even then we only go out about a mile just to give everybody a look around. Someone asked me if I was worried about it being too many people. In my case, it was about 14 adults and 2 children (or less). The children always wear life jackets and I certainly had proper life jackets for all others on board. The total extra load in people was like 1/2 my fuel load. My boat is about 30,000lbs and frankly I couldn't tell the difference. We have plenty of room on the boat and people were spread out all over the place so it never felt crowded. I'm not familiar with a 41 Roughwater, but 12 doesn't sound like a problem.

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I'm not that familiar with your boat either, but did go look at photos of several. I'd ask the additional question and that is can you comfortably seat 12 people? Can you seat them all under cover?
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We've (35-by-13 foot, 14-ton trawler) had eleven aboard, including five children counting one in uterus. No problem since the mother constantly monitored her children, and yes, the children wore PDFs, and we've high, solid railings.
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The passenger ratings are a puzzle, to say the least. I've had 11 on my 21 foot, flat-bottom skiff. The skiff is rated for 14 passengers!

Assuming 200 lbs. per passenger, you're looking at 2400 lbs. of "cargo". That's less than the fuel load on most 41 foot boats. I can't see that 2400 lbs. would jeopardize the safety or stability of a 41 foot boat.

Maybe if the 12 form a cheerleader's pyramid while standing on the outboard edge of the flybridge? While the boat makes a hard-over turn at speed?
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I have a family outing come up on the boat and don't want to leave any one out, but am concerned about over loading the boat. The boat is 41 ft x 13ft single diesel and looking at 12 people on board. What do you think.
We've had 12 people inside the cabin for a cocktail party once. Standing room only and we were tied to the dock. I''m sure I've seen your boat before. Do you keep it at BYC?
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Docked doesn't (hardly) count.
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