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Old 01-14-2013, 06:35 PM   #121
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We thought of that kind of system when our border terrier decided to pee on a faux-grass doormat in the cockpit. We found a rubbermaid storage tub the top of which was about 2 feet long, turned the top upside down, cut the doormat to fit inside the top, and attached one end of the doormat to the tub top with zip-ties.

Whenever she needed to, Scrappy would happily pee on it rather than on the deck, and it was easy to dump and rinse overboard. It did need a good scrubbing once in a while to remove deposits.

She rarely pooped on the pee-pad, but picking up poop from the cockpit deck and tossing it overboard (only in appropriate locations) or into the head wasn't too much trouble. She knew to go to the cockpit to relieve herself, and we never "had to" take her ashore.
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Old 01-14-2013, 08:36 PM   #122
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Merlin has outlasted me - 2 days. We have Astroturf (with his poop scent) and puppypads but he has so far endured longer than I. If we're anchored, he will swim ashore on his own to go potty (if we tell him it's OK), but so far, no poop on the boat.
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Old 01-14-2013, 08:57 PM   #123
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Are there people that boat without them?

My question is how you all have trained them to go on deck? We just switched to trawler speed and we never get anywhere if we limit our running time to the duration of their bladder. Back when we were doing 18 knots we could actually get somewhere but not at 7!

We've tried grass pads, we've tried capturing some of their urine and putting it on the pad, we've pushed them until they cry in discomfort. Maybe we just haven't pushed them far enough often enough but we don't want to hurt them either.

Any secrets out there??
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Old 01-15-2013, 12:17 AM   #124
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To start with, everything I have read about dog behavior and the vets we've talked to says that dogs DO NOT like the smell of poop and so avoid it like the plague if they can. So putting your dog's poop smell on something hoping that will encourage them to go repels them, it doesn't encourage them.

We have never tried to train our dogs to go on deck. We praised them if they did and still do with our current dog.. As a result while they always preferred to go ashore, as our current dog does as well, if they've needed to go they would and would pee on the deck without hesitation. But only on extremely rare occasions have any of them ever pooped on the boat unless they had an upset stomach. And when they did they would not go near that spot again for weeks.

We don't mind taking the dog ashore-- it's good for us, too, to get off the boat for a bit even after dark. We usually make our last run to shore for the day about 9 pm. Our current dog went out on the boat the second day we had him at 8 weeks. So he had no compunction about going on deck. As he grew older, however, he stopped pooping on the deck unless it was an emergency. But he still prefers going to shore in the dinghy as he's learned that besides being a bathroom break he also gets to play and swim.



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Old 01-21-2013, 01:36 PM   #125
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Are there people that boat without them?

My question is how you all have trained them to go on deck? We just switched to trawler speed and we never get anywhere if we limit our running time to the duration of their bladder. Back when we were doing 18 knots we could actually get somewhere but not at 7!

We've tried grass pads, we've tried capturing some of their urine and putting it on the pad, we've pushed them until they cry in discomfort. Maybe we just haven't pushed them far enough often enough but we don't want to hurt them either.

Any secrets out there??
Dogs will adapt if need be. They will train their master as needed if they can. For instance the PWD's were out on a fishing boat for several days at a time. These were row boats not power (circa 1400's). They were in the Atlantic Ocean. They did not go to shore. You have to out wait them. Easier said than done I know.

As a side note, the saying "being the lead dog is good" has several meanings. Not only does the scenery change but the dogs on a sled team eat ice and snow on the run for water to drink and they pee and poop on the run as well. Lead dog always has white snow to drink and nothing to dodge. Just a fact.
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Old 01-21-2013, 01:48 PM   #126
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You have to out wait them. Easier said than done I know.
That is the understatement of the day.
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Old 01-21-2013, 02:19 PM   #127
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[QUOTE=Marin;126689]To start with, everything I have read about dog behavior and the vets we've talked to says that dogs DO NOT like the smell of poop and so avoid it like the plague if they can. So putting your dog's poop smell on something hoping that will encourage them to go repels them, it doesn't encourage them.

We have never tried to train our dogs to go on deck. We praised them if they did and still do with our current dog.. As a result while they always preferred to go ashore, as our current dog does as well, if they've needed to go they would and would pee on the deck without hesitation. But only on extremely rare occasions have any of them ever pooped on the boat unless they had an upset stomach. And when they did they would not go near that spot again for weeks.

We don't mind taking the dog ashore-- it's good for us, too, to get off the boat for a bit even after dark. We usually make our last run to shore for the day about 9 pm. Our current dog went out on the boat the second day we had him at 8 weeks. So he had no compunction about going on deck. As he grew older, however, he stopped pooping on the deck unless it was an emergency. But he still prefers going to shore in the dinghy as he's learned that besides being a bathroom break he also gets to play and swim.



As to the first part of your post I have known more than one dog that was coprophiliac.
Seem fairly common. In my humble experience.

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Old 01-21-2013, 07:09 PM   #128
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When we got our current dog, Diesel, at 6 weeks we also got a faux grass pad and tray for home and another for the boat. So from puppy size we persisted catching him about to wee and put him on the pad when about to do so at home and on the boat. He got the idea and now that he is 2 years old he uses the pad if he is confined and cant get out in the yard or off the boat. No problem with wees but a bit hit and miss for poos. He does still hold on preferring to "go" on land so when on the boat we get him onto land 3 times a day. By and large the pads work however they do pong after a while so regular washing/cleaning is needed. Interestingly he must prefer the smell of a hint of wees as from time to time we find him lying down on the pad. We do try to discourage that however. By and large the pads work for us..
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Old 01-22-2013, 01:04 PM   #129
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It's refreshing to see how y'all deal with the "output" but how about the "input"?

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looks familiar

Looks like a family meal when we get the kids and grand-kids together.... I don't use a whip.. it's sort of cruel..I have them trained with a whistle.. I find it a lot safer!!!!! Who Let The Hounds Out ??
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No dog but I've got a boat cat :-)
Here's a picture of a mates boat dog, Timmy

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We've boated with dogs from day one. Sometimes one, sometimes two. Wouldn't have it any other way.
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Well we found out this wekend that our cat will do just fine other than hair all over everything.

One of our friends told us you can train a small dog to use a kitty litter box! Really? Has anyone tried this?
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Old 01-22-2013, 05:05 PM   #135
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My two are always with us but we just bought a boat this fall and as soon as the weather improves a bit we are off to the north coast of B.C. Let's hope the kids like boating. Ralph and Ginger liked trucking so we shall see
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Well we found out this wekend that our cat will do just fine other than hair all over everything.

One of our friends told us you can train a small dog to use a kitty litter box! Really? Has anyone tried this?
Mate you can by training aids to assist the cat to piss and Sh!t in the head.
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Mate you can by training aids to assist the cat to piss and Sh!t in the head.
Buy not by or bye :-/ lol

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We'll now be boating with this guy. Kids finally are old enough and responsible enough (?) to look after. Have had a few Goldens years ago, but thought a mid sized dog would be easier to get in and out of the dink and take to shore. He's supposed to get to be 25-30lbs so should be manageable
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What about life vests for your dogs... type and cost?
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We'll now be boating with this guy. Kids finally are old enough and responsible enough (?) to look after. Have had a few Goldens years ago, but thought a mid sized dog would be easier to get in and out of the dink and take to shore. He's supposed to get to be 25-30lbs so should be manageable

Now that is cute.....Name him Cruiser!!
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