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11-07-2017, 06:49 PM
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Guru
City: Ft Pierce
Vessel Name: Sold
Vessel Model: Was an Albin/PSN 40
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 28,149
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gaston
As I see it the extra HP against a very fast current allows the engine to reach higher RPM hence keeping the boat at hull speed and not dropping back
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Nope, boat speed through the water is just that, current or not.
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11-07-2017, 07:14 PM
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Guru
City: Jacksonville
Vessel Name: SONAS
Vessel Model: Grand Alaskan 53
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 7,235
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hmason
Hmm I would have stopped for a cold one had I known. I sure needed it. I saw an Alaskan heading north as I was entering New Smyrna. Was that you?
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Nope, she is tied up until we head for St Augustine on Nov 17th for the start of Night Of Lights.
Then Abacos in March through April, Chesapeake June through August.
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11-08-2017, 09:17 AM
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Guru
City: LI or Fla
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 1,148
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We have a similar situation by us with Shinnecock Locks on Long Island, certain parts of the day they leave the locks open and the water really flows through, bouncing off walls etc. When no traffic I can throw down the tabs and give it a good amount of throttle, but if I'm going through on a weekend and other boats around there is a heck of a lot of wheel movement on my part.
Glad you made it through safe and sound!
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11-08-2017, 09:33 AM
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#44
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Guru
City: Kitimat, North Coast BC
Vessel Name: Badger
Vessel Model: 30' Sundowner Tug
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 5,946
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sbu22
If contact had been made between Howard's FG boat and the deck barge, they probably wouldn't notice unless they were looking.
Appreciate the story and the candor, Howard. It will may help somebody out sometime - like me.
Flying Magazine used to (may still) run articles called "I learned about flying from that" - first hand, drop your drawers recounts of situations and recoveries (sometimes non-recoveries) of everything from weather, mechanical failure, and most often pilot error.
I wonder if TF members could generate enough interest to support a long term thread (think Interesting Boats) on the subject?
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Tried that, but it fizzled...
http://www.trawlerforum.com/forums/s...cks-33998.html
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11-08-2017, 12:32 PM
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Guru
City: Adelaide
Vessel Name: Kokanee
Vessel Model: Cuddles 30 Pilot House Motor Sailer
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 3,218
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Quote:
Originally Posted by markpierce
My boat can readily maintain hull (maximum with well less than 80 HP) speed through the water regardless of the current. Doesn't yours?
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A full displacement boat won't maintain hull speed over ground against a strong current, regardless of how much horsepower it has.
Mark, your extra horsepower may may make up the speed lost in a light current, but with a 10 knot current, you would be going backwards.
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11-08-2017, 06:05 PM
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#46
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Guru
City: New Orleans
Vessel Name: Panache
Vessel Model: Viking 43 Double Cabin '76
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 1,253
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11-08-2017, 06:27 PM
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Master and Commander
City: Vallejo CA
Vessel Name: Carquinez Coot
Vessel Model: penultimate Seahorse Marine Coot hull #6
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 12,559
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve
Next time you open a bottle for a drink on board offer a shot over the side for Neptune/ Poseidon !
I'm glad you made it though fine!
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Should have been done at the time of the boat's blessing/launching.
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11-08-2017, 06:31 PM
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#48
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Master and Commander
City: Vallejo CA
Vessel Name: Carquinez Coot
Vessel Model: penultimate Seahorse Marine Coot hull #6
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 12,559
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AusCan
A full displacement boat won't maintain hull speed over ground against a strong current, regardless of how much horsepower it has.
Mark, your extra horsepower may may make up the speed lost in a light current, but with a 10 knot current, you would be going backwards.
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Yes, but I was speaking of speed through water. Yes, it is possible to maintain hull speed and go backward because of an opposing fast current.
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11-09-2017, 12:51 AM
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Veteran Member
City: Portland, TN
Vessel Name: Roundabout
Vessel Model: 2000 Donzi Z275
Join Date: Jul 2017
Posts: 54
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Thank you for sharing your experience. That is something I wasn't aware of. We have not been where there is a lot of current.
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2000 Donzi Z275 Cruiser
"Dreaming of the Great Loop"
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11-09-2017, 06:16 AM
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Guru
City: Jacksonville
Vessel Name: SONAS
Vessel Model: Grand Alaskan 53
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 7,235
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I am taking my little 11' Novurania tender through there later this morning to lift at the ramp to have the trim motor replaced. Thankfully I will be running with the current this time. Should be a blast!
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11-12-2017, 08:32 AM
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#51
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Senior Member
City: North Vancouver
Vessel Name: INFINITY ∞
Vessel Model: Nordhavn 62
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 249
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sbu22
I wonder if TF members could generate enough interest to support a long term thread (think Interesting Boats) on the subject?
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Unfortunately, I got about 40 of them,,,
Think I'd need a Man-of-the-cloth on hand if I was going to divulge though.
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11-14-2017, 05:40 AM
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#52
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Guru
City: Cape Cod
Vessel Name: Slip Aweigh
Vessel Model: Prairie 29
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 1,219
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A suicide knob on the wheel is most helpful in this case. My boat has one on salon helm. It is much easier to throw the helm faster with it than from up top which doesn’t have one. I have found myself going down to salon for tight maneuvers just to be able to use it.
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11-14-2017, 08:59 AM
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#53
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Guru
City: SF Bay Area
Vessel Model: Tollycraft 34' Tri Cabin
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 12,569
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cappy208
A suicide knob on the wheel is most helpful in this case. My boat has one on salon helm. It is much easier to throw the helm faster with it than from up top which doesn’t have one. I have found myself going down to salon for tight maneuvers just to be able to use it.
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I have SN on bridge helm. Not on salon helm. Then again... 99.9% of my time is piloting from bridge. SN's are great. for boating! Have one on our runabout too!
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11-17-2017, 05:57 PM
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Member
City: Little River, SC
Vessel Name: Last Resort
Vessel Model: Hyatt 40 Sundeck
Join Date: Mar 2017
Posts: 20
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I have had a couple of hairy rides into the BHI marina as well..
Ray
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11-17-2017, 06:17 PM
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#55
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Guru
City: Cary, NC
Vessel Name: Skinny Dippin'
Vessel Model: Navigator 4200 Classic
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 5,841
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NC-Ray
I have had a couple of hairy rides into the BHI marina as well..
Ray
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Yea... getting into Joyner Marina in Carolina Beach is just as challenging.
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11-18-2017, 05:19 PM
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Veteran Member
City: Jefferson Ma.
Vessel Name: Anegada da Vida
Vessel Model: 1979 Mainship 34 mk1
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 83
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We went through here today. The current was against us and the admiral applied almost all the power we had to make it through. We were heading south and just before we entered beneath the bridge was the most challenging. The current was throwing the bow around like it was nothing.
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11-18-2017, 09:02 PM
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#57
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Guru
City: Jacksonville
Vessel Name: SONAS
Vessel Model: Grand Alaskan 53
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 7,235
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jdud133
We went through here today. The current was against us and the admiral applied almost all the power we had to make it through. We were heading south and just before we entered beneath the bridge was the most challenging. The current was throwing the bow around like it was nothing.
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We did yesterday as well on Sonas on our way to St Augustine. It was brutal. The Admiral started off on the fly bridge with me but ran below and grabbed a fender ready to throw it where it might be needed. They need to get that work completed quickly.
Are you in St Augustine?
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11-18-2017, 09:38 PM
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#58
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Guru
City: Stuart FL
Vessel Name: Lucky Lucky
Vessel Model: Pacific Mariner 65
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 2,760
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Seems I was not the only one to deal with this. Quite the experience.
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Lucky Lucky
Stuart, FL
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07-07-2020, 09:21 AM
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#59
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Guru
City: Montgomery
Vessel Name: Choices
Vessel Model: 36 Grand Banks Europa
Join Date: Apr 2018
Posts: 897
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We have humor thread, title it "War Stories".
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36 Grand Banks Europa
Montgomery, TX
Blog: "grandbankschoices"
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07-07-2020, 10:21 AM
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#60
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Guru
City: Beaufort, NC USA
Vessel Name: Sylphide
Vessel Model: Kingston Aluminum Yacht 44' Custom
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 2,228
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I'm glad you didn't scuff any paint, Sir Howard. There are few feelings worse than 'I got it, I got it, I got it.... I DON'T GOT IT!'
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