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Old 12-14-2015, 07:36 AM   #21
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Lots of really cool boats! Thanks all. I would post a pic of the rig but I can never remember how to post a pic on this site.

Might be useful; your mast (in your avatar) looks to be so far aft that a head sail would likely foul on your cabin, flybridge, bimini, etc.?

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Old 12-14-2015, 03:43 PM   #22
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Old 12-14-2015, 03:47 PM   #23
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Not a "head" sail, oui?


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Old 12-14-2015, 04:17 PM   #24
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Oui, not a head sail. But a friend of mine had that kind of sail on his GB 42' classic, and this sail improved a lot stabilization, then I thought it was interesting.. Sorry about that.
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Old 12-14-2015, 05:10 PM   #25
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Indeed, interesting.


I didn't mean to make my note sound like a criticism. I was just beginning to wonder if I correctly understood what a head sail is, especially since JJ's mast in his avatar is so far aft and I can't make out a forestay in that pic.


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Old 12-14-2015, 06:19 PM   #26
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I hope this gives some perspective. Yes, the bimini would be in the way however on long passages I take it down.
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My jib has a single sheet (only one line controlling the sail rather than two sheets, on both port and starboard), means I need to "rewind" the jib to tack. Thus, I don't hoist the jib when winds are shifting or I would need to make frequent tacks, or if I'm not unusually energetic.

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The PM photo of the GB headsail looks fairly similar to your possible headsail setup JJ. If the winds are flukey, it would certainly foul on the bimini. Close hauling certainly would be a problem. But on a steady beam reach, you'd be able to make use of a fair amount of sail area.
Tacking would be a pain in the butt, unless you had a furler to pull it in during the tack. This may not be much of an issue though, as you'd likely only use it in open water with a steady wind on the beam.
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The on GB in PM he has a much more vertical stay than I have. See the drawing I posted of a Bristol 42 and is the exact layout of my boat. This sail would only be used on long runs and not in shifty conditions. It would not be of any use or used for any wind fwd of the beam. Since most passages should be made (in a perfect perfect perfect world) on a min of a beam reach and ideally down wind this sail could prove to be invaluable. According to the PM article the GB was able to nearly double his economy and as a bonus added 1 kt to his cruise speed. His goal and actions were to make his GB a sailboat which he did. My goal is to smooth things out and gain a bump in economy. I have the main sail already and the boat is fully rigged (I think over rigged really) I may borrow a small sail and try it out. I think the single line concept is the way to go. First its simple and second it make you go out and walk the line around (which could be dangerous) but also makes you look at your gear. In borrowing a hanked on sail I can add a down haul to bring the sail down, tack/jibe and raise as a test. This should be easy because flybridge will skirt much of the wind very quickly.
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Jimmy James, by the way, the sail on my friend GB 42' classic improved astabilization when at the anchor as well, helping the boat to stay still in the direction from the wind came. Hope you understand what I mean. Olivier.
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Indeed, interesting.


I didn't mean to make my note sound like a criticism. I was just beginning to wonder if I correctly understood what a head sail is, especially since JJ's mast in his avatar is so far aft and I can't make out a forestay in that pic.


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Chris, no worry I didn't take it at all as a criticism :-), I was just explaining why I showed up this pic.
Chesapeake Bay ? Congratulations. It's one of my favorite place for boating in the US, with NC outer banks, Florida keys, Sag Harbor Long Island NY, and San Francisco Bay as well.
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