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Old 08-20-2015, 11:02 PM   #21
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First time I saw the thread I thought the bowl must have fractured. But I see the problem, provided the prostate is doing ok the absence should be brief, with the time and place carefully chosen.
Judges used to be selected for their legal knowledge, fair and logical thinking, and capacious bladder.
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Old 08-21-2015, 01:10 AM   #22
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The very definition of luxury!

People have lunch hooks, why not a poop hook??? We could wire up a system where you just press a big red 'oh, shit' button on the dash, which automatically puts the engines in neutral, drops the poop hook, raises a toilet seat dayshape into the rigging, starts sounding regular fog signals, and fires up the head ventilation fan. We could make millions Jerry, MILLIONS!

When I'm at work, I'm stuck up in the pilothouse for 6 hours at a clip. There are no facilities. I'm about 90 feet in the air, so escaping to the head for any amount of time would make me pretty grossly negligent. Number twos are pretty much out of the question. We have a bucket for emergencies. Seriously. Number ones on the other hand, are a real delight. I check the relative wind, do a cursory scan for anyone that may be working on deck below me, and let slip the dogs of war. I like to call it the 'sky piss.' It's pretty refreshing, until winter sets in.
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Old 08-21-2015, 01:14 AM   #23
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I can see that a jug can be handy, especially if one operates from a flying bridge with the accompanying long ladder or many stair steps. Being by one's self, using a jug shouldn't offend anyone.
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Old 08-21-2015, 01:23 AM   #24
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I remember doing 24 hour urine collections for analysis after a kidney stone , using a 2 liter bottle, the kind fresh OJ gets bottled in here. The bottle neck was too narrow, but I never overfilled one in 24 hrs.
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Old 08-21-2015, 01:24 AM   #25
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Having a suitable container nearby in case timing isn't great isn't a bad idea.
That's what we used when towing targets for ship gunnery practice. We flew JD-1s (B-26 for you Air Force guys.) Most of the time we used a relief tube (venturi) but every once in awhile some a-hole would plug the outside of the damn thing and the tube would overflow.
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Old 08-21-2015, 04:57 AM   #26
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Assess the situation.

There are times when it is safe to have a hour long sit on the head, and times when you have to piss
in a bucket at the helm.
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Old 08-21-2015, 08:05 AM   #27
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In all seriousness, don't wait till you need to go. My routine is to take advantage of optimal times in transit and plan the events around my schedule. As an example, when I run my charter boat, I have a 1 to 4 hour cruise out and back. Simply, I go before I start in the morning and before I start home in the afternoon. This was like traveling in the car with my parents. Go before you leave home; go every time we stop for food or fuel, whether you need to or not.

If there is an emergency, slow to minimum speed that the AP can still steer, or stop and drift, depends on whether you are 5 miles off shore or running a channel in the AICW.

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Old 08-21-2015, 08:17 AM   #28
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Old 08-21-2015, 08:42 AM   #29
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Set the anchor and handle things in a civilized manner
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Old 08-21-2015, 10:10 AM   #30
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Using the word anchor and civilized in the same sentence is appropriate for a thread that may be dealing in "crap"...
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Old 08-21-2015, 02:12 PM   #31
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Well said.
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Old 08-21-2015, 03:23 PM   #32
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Use an empty wide mouth Maxwell House or Folgers plastic coffee can. It has a nice handle on the side. You can't miss and can dump it overboard or in the head at your convenience. Not so useful on the fly bridge.
I agree. I don't single hand but often find myself on watch alone while Michelle takes a nap. Easy enough to empty when time permits.
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Put out a securite call noting that the boat is temporarily not under command at position XXX,YYY and proceeding under power on course XYZ at speed ZZ knots. Then go do your business. When finished put out another call noting that the vessel is back under command.
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Old 08-21-2015, 06:12 PM   #34
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And a challenge, Mark. I'll bet you a tank of diesel that I can hit the galley sink from my lower helm position.
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Old 08-21-2015, 06:22 PM   #35
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Put out a securite call noting that the boat is temporarily not under command at position XXX,YYY and proceeding under power on course XYZ at speed ZZ knots. Then go do your business. When finished put out another call noting that the vessel is back under command.
One cannot 'decide' when one is NUC. It is not a decision that can be made then 'unmade'. NUC is a defect that causes the inability to obey the Colregs. You opting to not follow Colregs does not make you a different class of vessel.

What you are describing is: Making your boat "Underway, but not operating under Colregs. BIG difference. You are still liable and must have a lookout until you are no longer underway.

Getting back to using the head while alone, sure it is done. Butt you must make certain nothing is within striking distance, nothing is within range of you, and (here's the tough one) nothing is in your path to foul your prop while you aren't looking out the window. How about if you are down below in the crapper for 5 minutes, making 8 knots. It that time you have traveled .6 of a mile. Can you really 'see' small objects .6 of a mile away? Like a head bobbing in the water?

I don't know about you, but I would HATE to know that earlier that day a kid was missing off a windsurfer in the general area and I missed seeing him/her and they perished because I couldn't take the boat out of gear while I took a dump down below..... There's a LOT that you can miss being down below for 5 minutes. (never mind an hour on a transatlantic voyage)
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Glad reality never takes a firm grasp here in TF....
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Old 08-21-2015, 06:46 PM   #37
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Old 08-21-2015, 11:52 PM   #38
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A Gatorade bottle with the screw on top works just great. No need to leave the helm and no rush. If bigger problems arise, I got to neutral, do my thing and don't worry about the few minutes of travel I lost.
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And a challenge, Mark. I'll bet you a tank of diesel that I can hit the galley sink from my lower helm position.

Your doing better than me Ray. I'd pretty much get my feet wet trying
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