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Old 11-29-2016, 10:11 PM   #21
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I was told the same by a yard in St. Augustine. I had been cleaned a few weeks before so I told them I was fine, and they hauled me.
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Old 11-29-2016, 10:48 PM   #22
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Lived in FL most of my life and never heard of such a law. It doesn't seem to pass the smell test as thousands and thousands of boats are lifted out of the water and placed on racks almost daily. Now it may be possible that a local jurisdiction passed such a law but I doubt it. It is probably marina policy to protect the life of the lift harness. Barnacles can get quite large and sharp but hasn't your boat been in transit?
Sounds like the left-handed screwdriver to me - that or they are too lazy or cost conscious to get rid of the scrapings in a recognised way, so try to get you to do it in the water.
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Another reason to clean the bottom before hauling as you could have actually been ticketed in that situation.
Link me to the relevant regulation and I will believe you.
So would you freak about oysters growing on other people's boat hulls?

I just emailed VMRC and will post back what they say about this issue.
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There are a number of very fine boatyards here in Jacksonville, Florida. One in particular, Sadler Point Marina, prides itself on being environmentally conscious. (The water quality of the St. Johns River has been receiving growing attention throughout NE Florida).

Nowhere on Sadler Point's comprehensive information and FAQ page ( Frequently Asked Questions » Sadler Point Marina ) is there mention of the alleged "law" mentioned by the OP. I've never heard of it, and no one I know has ever heard of it either. I suspect something is being lost in translation here.
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The Florida Sea Grant program had an article about the invasive species call the Pacific Acorn barnacle

I couldn't get the link to work to read it, but the highlights of it mentioned these barnacles have become prevalent in the St Augustine area and they are hazardous.

Unfortunately, I couldn't find out why they are hazardous...maybe someone not on the road can find out some more.
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The Florida Sea Grant program had an article about the invasive species call the Pacific Acorn barnacle

I couldn't get the link to work to read it, but the highlights of it mentioned these barnacles have become prevalent in the St Augustine area and they are hazardous.

Unfortunately, I couldn't find out why they are hazardous...maybe someone not on the road can find out some more.
Here is a link to various Florida Marine Invaders. Unfortunately, the link from this page to the Acorn barnacles isn't working.

Marine Invasives - Sea Grant ? St. Johns County Extension Office

Interestingly, on reading about green mussel's, it says ideally the boat should be hauled and cleaned at a facility capable of disposing of the mussels.

I know one fear of all these things is transporting them to other waters. Northern Texas has some major issues with Zebra Mussels.
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There are a number of very fine boatyards here in Jacksonville, Florida. One in particular, Sadler Point Marina, prides itself on being environmentally conscious. (The water quality of the St. Johns River has been receiving growing attention throughout NE Florida).

Nowhere on Sadler Point's comprehensive information and FAQ page ( Frequently Asked Questions » Sadler Point Marina ) is there mention of the alleged "law" mentioned by the OP. I've never heard of it, and no one I know has ever heard of it either. I suspect something is being lost in translation here.
I suspect the only regulations are what the marina must do to dispose of the barnacles and certain marinas aren't equipped. Perhaps part of the clean marina status requirements as well. I know the clean marina requirements say quite a bit about boat cleaning.
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Link me to the relevant regulation and I will believe you.
So would you freak about oysters growing on other people's boat hulls?

I just emailed VMRC and will post back what they say about this issue.
I wonder if she thinks my question is a joke?
So far nothing about fines or imprisonment for scraping off barnacles....

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If I haul my boat and a few oysters are found growing on the boat hull, is there a violation of the law and can the boat owner be fined or imprisoned?
This question came up on an internet forum where one person alleged if the authorities knew oysters were growing on the boat bottom and you hauled out for your regular painting and scraped them off, that is a violation of the law and you would be fined.

So I don't believe what the person claims, so do you know?

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In Virginia.....wasn't the question posed about Florida?
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You people are looking in the wrong places. In California, boatyards are regulated under the Non Point Source Pollution Control Program, which is administered by the California EPA. Florida undoubtably has a similar regulatory body. Look there.

BTW- the Clean Marina program is a completely voluntary program that carries no weight of law or anything else.
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Link me to the relevant regulation and I will believe you.
So would you freak about oysters growing on other people's boat hulls?

I just emailed VMRC and will post back what they say about this issue.
Would I freak? No. But if it was my boat, I would worry about disposal. Also as to imprisoned and all the other things, I only said ticketed and I was referring to it as a fishing violation or some other minor violation. More perhaps like fishing out of season or putting trash in your recycling bin (and yes, I have known people ticketed for that in Pompano). I don't have a specific reference, but I just know, especially in the Maryland area of the Chesapeake, they're very particular on oyster beds and other things of that nature. By ticketed I was not implying something major and it was just a passing, partly serious, partly in jest comment as to something that wouldn't surprise me. It was not to cause you undo alarm or consternation.
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In Virginia.....wasn't the question posed about Florida?
Yes, except I was told by BandB I would be ticketed by the police if they knew I scraped oysters off the boat, So then I am asking VMRC about that. I mean would you just leave such a comment that what you did was a violation of the law unchallenged?

See I have actually gotten several responses from about 3 persons on this board about various things I did on other threads they told me was a violation of the law. Which I don't take kindly too.
And so I prove them wrong. Let's set the record straight! People have terrible attitudes here. I don't understand it myself.
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I wonder if she thinks my question is a joke?
So far nothing about fines or imprisonment for scraping off barnacles....

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If I haul my boat and a few oysters are found growing on the boat hull, is there a violation of the law and can the boat owner be fined or imprisoned?
This question came up on an internet forum where one person alleged if the authorities knew oysters were growing on the boat bottom and you hauled out for your regular painting and scraped them off, that is a violation of the law and you would be fined.

So I don't believe what the person claims, so do you know?

Thanks.
How did you get this out of this thread? You completely misunderstood what the OP (or anybody here) posted. Nobody said that having oysters (or any shelled animals) growing on the hull was some sort of violation. Hell, let an entire reef grow on your hull if you like. There's no law against it. The point is that boatyards are required to handle the fouling growth they remove at haulout as hazardous waste. That's expensive and they aren't going to eat the cost of it. So when a boat is hauled and is excessively foul, the yard will (rightfully so) pass the cost to the customer. There is no fine for the boat owner.
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How did you get this out of this thread? You completely misunderstood what the OP (or anybody here) posted. Nobody said that having oysters (or any shelled animals) growing on the hull was some sort of violation. Hell, let an entire reef grow on your hull if you like. There's no law against it. The point is that boatyards are required to handle the fouling growth they remove at haulout as hazardous waste. That's expensive and they aren't going to eat the cost of it. So when a boat is hauled and is excessively foul, the yard will (rightfully so) pass the cost to the customer. There is no fine for the boat owner.
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"Another reason to clean the bottom before hauling as you could have actually been ticketed in that situation."

Link me to the relevant regulation and I will believe you.
So would you freak about oysters growing on other people's boat hulls?

I just emailed VMRC and will post back what they say about this issue.

SO just WHO is going to give me ticket, citation?? My Marina??
No the implication is a citation from some kind of government agency.

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I had oysters on the bottom last haul and some people at the marine were distraught.
Basically I was being cruel for leaving them on the gravel under the boat.
So after I scraped them off, I threw them back into the water, where they will die since they lost their attachment and will sink into the mud. This however pleased several boat owners at the marina. I kid you not.

BandB said in response...
Another reason to clean the bottom before hauling as you could have actually been ticketed in that situation.
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Well, that's my point. Nobody is going to ticket you. There is no fine for having a foul hull or for having any particular plant or animal growth on it. The only "penalty" might be if a boat owner is charged extra at the boatyard and again, that is simply the yard passing their increased costs on to the customer.
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Well, that's my point. Nobody is going to ticket you. There is no fine for having a foul hull or for having any particular plant or animal growth on. The only "penalty" might be if a boat owner is charged extra at the boatyard and again, that is simply the yard passing their increased costs on to the customer.
I did not think so either....
But I was not going to let that one slide by, so I emailed VMRC to ask specifically.
It is just so blatantly obvious to me what is going on.
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Well, that's my point. Nobody is going to ticket you. There is no fine for having a foul hull or for having any particular plant or animal growth on it. The only "penalty" might be if a boat owner is charged extra at the boatyard and again, that is simply the yard passing their increased costs on to the customer.
There are two situations. One is where the yard does the cleaning and the other where the owner does it themselves.

Not that it's relevant to either of the discussions taking place but just to give an example of how the risks are sometimes perceived, Texas has a huge Zebra Mussel issue and with so many trailered boats they are taken from lake to lake so here is the law there.

Possession or transportation of zebra mussels in Texas is a Class C misdemeanor for the first offense, punishable by a fine of up to $500. Repeat offenses can be elevated to a Class B misdemeanor, punishable by a fine of up to $2,000, jail time up to 180 days, or both.
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She responded back again.

No fine, and no violation, means you will not get ticketed or a citation by a government agency in VA for scraping off oysters when you haul out of the water. Nothing whatsoever.

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Never heard of such a thing. Been in Fl since 09. At my yard they have a big pit like a restaurant grease trap. They pressure wash into the pit and the crap sinks to the bottom. Then every few months a vacuum truck sucks it out. They have the FL Clean Marina rating.
The given story from the yard has an aroma about it....check around.
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