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Old 07-24-2012, 10:16 PM   #21
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This beautiful gaff-rigged schooner passed us today off Benicia on its way to the Delta. From a distance it appeared to be a Junk considering the full-length battens.

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Old 07-24-2012, 11:41 PM   #22
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This beautiful gaff-rigged schooner passed us today off Benicia on its way to the Delta. From a distance it appeared to be a Junk considering the full-length battens.
I see you had a little wind out there today, Mark. Hope your sail was full!
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Old 07-25-2012, 01:11 AM   #23
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I guess if you're boating where the tides are that extreme, you need to time your trips and your slip access around low tides. That's 4 times a day of no access to your slip in a marina like this. No thanks.

While I'm here, I'll enjoy the warm waters and great climate of California with its year round boating and fishing.

For Marin, the waters and the boating environment are absolutely terrible down here. Even though you were named after California's Marin County, stay where you are. Your namesake is doing just fine without you.
FlyWrite I'd guess you got that picture at a -3 or-4 tide which is pretty unusual. Like Marin, I'm not convinced anybody is sitting on mud but it could be. I live and work only a few miles from this marina and I am quite familiar with it. At a minus tide the water can get pretty skinny but I believe most if not all the slips are still wet. When we do have a series of minus tides its only twice a day that the water is minus tide.

Because of the large tide changes in Budd Inlet (up to 20 feet at times) the ramps and marinas are designed to handle them. The ramp I use at Swantown Marina is Ok for me down to about a -2 tide. If it goes past that I just wait a little bit. It can get interesting on the large tide changes to get the trailer in the water just right, predicting the amount of tide change that will happen during the few minutes it takes to load the boat.

Anyways, Happy Boating to you all.
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Old 07-25-2012, 01:31 AM   #24
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We are at Nanaimo tonight. Heading to Pender Harbour tomorrow,then we will push on towards desolation Sound.

We have had our daughter and granddaughter aboard for the past 10 days, so stayed in the southern Gulf islands. We caught a lot of prawns, and had a great visit (they live far away, in Paris)

If the prawns are good, we will stay north for a couple of weeks.
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Old 07-25-2012, 02:30 AM   #25
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Perhaps due to isolation in the PNW.
Hmmmm.... Could be, Mark. I get so used to solitary anchorages and running for hours in the winter without seeing another recreational power boat (sailboat, maybe) and visiting little, funky, uncrowded harbors, and hearing nothing but ravens and eagles in the evening, when I see shots from other places with acres of boats crowded together or running in unbroken lines down a channel and marinas crawling with people I panic thinking what if that happens here?

Then I look at the rain and fog and gray skies and erupting volcanoes and I realize I've got nothing to worry about.
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Old 07-25-2012, 02:44 AM   #26
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Hmmmm.... Could be, Mark. I get so used to solitary anchorages and running for hours in the winter without seeing another recreational power boat ...
Isolation is great. To a point.



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Old 07-25-2012, 02:53 AM   #27
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Kearsarge Pass.... By chance named for the same Kearsarge that the Civil War frigate and the carrier were named after?
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Old 07-25-2012, 03:04 AM   #28
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The reason that Vallejo marina requires periodic dredging is because we (Mark and I) are located on Mare Island Strait. The South end of MIS is the confluence of the Napa River and the Sacramento / San Joaquin Rivers. Our marina is located on the Napa River which carries a tremendous sediment load during late Winter and Spring. When the velocity of the river hits our protected marina that load drops and fills our fairways and slips quickly. It's a very dynamic region. We have to dredge every three to four years, depending on Winter precipitation. In fact, the marina has ordered dredging activity to begin in about two weeks from now. Also, and I've mentioned this before, the Sacramento and San Joaquin Rivers flow through the Carquinex Strait and into San Francisco Bay. Forty percent of all water from California (164,000 square miles) flows through the Carquinez Strait.
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Old 07-25-2012, 03:12 AM   #29
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Kearsarge Pass.... By chance named for the same Kearsarge that the Civil War frigate and the carrier were named after?
Most likely. The now-gone, not-too-far-away town of Kearsarge was named after the Union man-of-war U.S.S. Kearsarge, which had sunk the Confederate ship, CSS Alabama, off the coast of France. The pass is the eastern entrance to Kings Canyon National Park.
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I suspect most marinas or channels located near a river mouth or delta are going to have a problem with silting and require dredging from time to time. Our own marina has had a portion of one of the basins dredged this winter in conjunction with a dock replacement project. There is a high volume stream entering the bay next to the marina as well as a good sized river delta a few miles away, both of which dump a lot of silt and debris into the bay.

This is the problem with the Swinomish waterway that was mentioned earlier. The waterway connects two large and shallow bays both of which have rivers and streams dumping silt into them at a high rate. The tidal currents move this silt into the boat channel that was dredged through the slough years ago. The channel requires annual dredging but a few years ago it was stopped due to federal budget cuts. The channel silting didn't stop however, hence the problem some boaters are having today.
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Forty percent of all water from California (164,000 square miles) flows through the Carquinez Strait.
Not if Governor Brown and his southern California and agri-business constituents have their way and construct huge underground pipes siphoning Sacramento River waters before they get to the Delta.
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Old 07-25-2012, 04:43 AM   #32
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Not if Governor Brown and his southern California and agri-business constituents have their way and construct huge underground pipes siphoning Sacramento River waters before they get to the Delta.
Why don't we just buy a couple of large barges a ship Washington rain down to LA. If we do it long enough we may upset the weather patterns of the North West and actually give them something they never get "sun" Meanwhile we would be saving our Northern Cal water from the robber barons of the south. If we ship enough water south perhaps the water that evaporates into the atmosphere of Southern Cal would give them rain, something they never see and the pristine waters of the California Delta would be all ours. Was it three years ago that Seattle had a heat wave, yes sir it was in the mid 80's and the extreme weather alert was all over the news. Tricks on hydrating your dogs and cats, Sun burn warnings no less. I couldn't keep from laughing. I returned home to 114 degs , but it was a dry heat. Damn it's miserable here in the low 90's right now, delta water is in the mid 70's, not much wind, guess I'll have to take the kids out skiing or tubing, water quality on the Sacramento very good right now. Salmon are running and and trolling is an option, but I wouldn't want to get too sunburned so I'll go early before breakfast. Pear feastable next weekend, and the new wines should be ready for tasting soon at the Sugar Mill. Supposed to cool a little tomorrow into the mid 80's maybe I'll have to change to long pants.
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delta water is in the mid 70's,
Brrrr! Ours was 86* according to the local weather report last night.
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Old 07-28-2012, 12:16 AM   #36
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Grace has been underway since June 20th. Left Deltaville Virginia and have been in Maine for the last three weeks. Have been in the Mt Desert Island area for the last two and I'm not sure we're willing to ever leave! This place is incredible but swimming is out of the question.
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We finally launched Budds Outlet this past week and we will be cruising around south Puget Sound for the next few weeks. I had a little mishap getting her out from under cover so I'm headed out this morning to get some stitching done on a rip in the canvas. That and replacing an antenna mount is what I get for not raising the door all the way. Thank goodness for the Admiral and her walkie talkie communications, it could have been far worse.

South Puget Sound is being visited by an estimated 70 canoes from indian tribes as far north as the the north end of Vancouver Island. There will be an estimated 1,000 paddlers being hosted by the Squaxin Indain tribe which is indegenous to south Puget Sound. Because we are moored near where they are landing we will be able to park nearby and observe the ceremony on Sunday. I don't believe we will boat on Sunday as it will be too congested in the bay.
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Grace has been underway since June 20th. Left Deltaville Virginia and have been in Maine for the last three weeks. Have been in the Mt Desert Island area for the last two and I'm not sure we're willing to ever leave! This place is incredible but swimming is out of the question.
Give us a shout should you make it into Buck's Harbor.
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