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Old 08-28-2008, 05:03 AM   #1
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Gustav

Well this one seems to be making a beeline for the Gulf Coast. The predicted track moved a bit westward overnight, putting*it anywhere from the FL panhandle to the middle Texas coast on Tuesday, based on the five day cone. Oh well, I didn't bother taking off all the extra lines from the boat since the last "storm" came through.
Check the storm's progress at the NHC:
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/index.shtml
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Old 08-28-2008, 08:10 AM   #2
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Luckily my boat is pretty simple and I can "hurricane and un-hurricane" it in just a coupla hours. I still think it is a little too far out to call. I haven't looked at all the data today but it is unnerving that they keep shifting it West. The ridge over the Eastern Gulf needs to dissipate so it will make it's turn.
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Old 08-28-2008, 11:13 AM   #3
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I'm sitting here w/ a bullseye painted on my boat, not a great feeling. The New Orleans folks are on standby to evacuate, the govt is mighty nervous. Old School (my trawler) is sitting on blocks in a boatyard in Slidell, LA, where its been since late May.*Not sure if that's good or bad as far as hurricanes go. Does it usually take 3 months for a bottom job, bow thruster install, holding tank replacement, and new zincs? At any rate, by this time next week we should be done w/ Gustav. Good luck to all.
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Old 08-28-2008, 11:58 AM   #4
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Mike, a properly blocked and chocked boat on land is probably the best place for it to be. My insurance company will even pay half of the expenses for me to do this since they think it is the best idea as well. You might check your policy and get a little cash bump from them if indeed the storm does come your way. Good luck.
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Old 08-28-2008, 04:25 PM   #5
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RE: Gustav

Well Guys it looks like you are going to be having some very interesting weather in the next few days. I went through 3 hurricanes aboard Sea Eagle in 2004 but I doubt that there is any advice I can give you that you don't already know.

The water here on the St Johns is currently about 6 inches above where it was after three storms in 2004 and the river hasn't crested yet. If we get another major storm before it clears out we are really going to be screwed. We will be thinking about you guys in Texas, Louisiana, Mississippi etc. and wish you all the best of luck!!
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Old 08-28-2008, 07:22 PM   #6
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Should be a hell of a ride, 3 of these s.o.b.'s at one go. Lets see who's still standing next Thursday. Good luck gentlemen.
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Old 08-29-2008, 04:00 AM   #7
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Does it usually take 3 months for a bottom job, bow thruster install, holding tank replacement, and new zincs?

If they have the big buck hole drilling gear the bow thruster is more a matter of running the power (electric or Hyd) inside out of sight.


The holding tank will be the hassle of how much boat has to be removed to see the unit.

Have had TT at our place that required the engine to be pulled to get the rotten iron fuel tanks out, that is a bunch of hours!

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Old 08-29-2008, 05:03 AM   #8
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Bottom job takes a couple of days around here, that's it. The bow thruster installation on my boat took about a month, according to the dates on my pictures. There's a lot to that job, although I have to say they weren't in a hurry, since I was having a lot of other work done on the boat. Holding tank shouldn't take that long either. Sounds like they're just not actively working on your boat. Hope they aren't charging you a layup charge by the day. If they are, that may be why they're dragging their feet.
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Old 08-29-2008, 06:44 AM   #9
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I'm glad I am between boats, I sold my Camano in July and will by a replacement in November to avoid storms bringing her home.
Yesterday I helped a friend bring his 40' power cat fishing machine from Cocodrie up to Houma, Louisiana for shelter, Gustav seems to be headed this way. It was going to be a quick 30 mile trip he has 2-450 HP Cummins and about 40 knot top speed. But the boat hadn't been run in a year or more, so about 30 min into the trip the starboard engine overheated and had to be shut down knocking the speed back to 6 knots. I drove while he spent about an hour down in the engine compartment. God knows how hot it was down there. One of the fresh cooling water lines had sprung a pretty good leak. A cat under one engine doesn't steer very well so when we got to a tight spot or bridge ( four of them) he would pour a couple of gallons of fresh water into the system and run the engine long enough to complete the maneouver. The fresh water tank soon went dry but he had several cases of bottled drinking water which the engine didn't seem to mind at all, this lasted just long enough to get to his dock not far from the Houma Municipal Marina.
So, as often happens in these situations a simple trip turned out to take about 3 times as long as planned then there is all the logistics of getting to the boat then going back for one of the cars etc. It is always a good idea to plan and do all of this well in advance and done before the waterways get crowded with other boaters in the same fix. Same thing happens with trailerable boats on the highways, broken trailers, dry rotted tires and so on. Oh well I need to go down to Cocodrie to get my fishing camp secure and bring my Whaler Montauk back to "high ground" 12' above sea level in Thibodaux.
Good luck to all in the landfall cone.
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Old 08-29-2008, 12:34 PM   #10
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Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 11:24 PM
Subject: FW: Guns and Gustav (UNCLASSIFIED)


> Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
> Caveats: NONE
>
> Thought y'all might find this interesting. . .
>
> Ol' Jim, hisself
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> We just got a call from Devline Rossell, a charter captain based out of
> Venice, Louisiana. He was shopping in New Orleans to get some supplies
> before the arrival of Gustav (currently listed as a tropical storm that
> has left at least 22 dead in the Caribbean) and reported that the item
> most in demand was not food, clothing or shelter.
>
> "I just left a sporting goods store and you would think that the
> number-one selling item would be plywood or potable water or gasoline
> right now," he said. "Apparently it is AR-15s and .223 ammo. I watched
> at least 20 people buy AR-15s and cases of .223."
>
> Can't say I'm surprised. After the nightmare that was Katrina I think it
> would be unwise for anyone to assume the state, local or federal
> government could guarantee his or her personal safety during a natural
> disaster. Of course, I think it is foolish to assume that under any
> circumstance.
>
> The AR buying spree demonstrates that people don't think of it as an
> "assault weapon" but rather an arm that is ideally suited for
> self-defense, which it is. I also suspect that for some of the folks
> this is their first firearm. Goes to show that not only is there no such
> thing as an atheist in a foxhole but that there is no such thing as a
> gun-control advocate in one either.
>
> -John Snow
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> Posted at 08:08 PM in Gun Rights
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>
> It takes seconds to call 911. Waiting for the police to arrive may take
> the rest of your life.
> When seconds count, the police are only minutes away.
> "... your call is important to us... Please cower in fear until the
> next 9-1-1 operator is available..."
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>
>
> Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
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Old 08-29-2008, 10:38 PM   #11
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Go get 'em Mike.

It'll slide since it was hurricane related but thanks for looking out for the common good of the site!!!!
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Old 08-30-2008, 04:00 AM   #12
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Spam? FF wasn't selling anything. I can tell you, when I stayed aboard when Rita was supposed to come through (I lived there, no place else to go) I had my 12 gage shotgun right by the aft door, and my 9mm handy as well. The AR-15 stayed in storage... a bit overkill for the marina.
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Old 08-30-2008, 09:58 AM   #13
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It doesn't have to be selling anything to be spam. A lot of people consider any unsolicited e-mail spam.

I agree with Mike and Baker. It might be border-line but, being FF, it had to include hard-core political rants, which put it over the edge. (it doesn't matter that this time I agree with him)

Now that that's out of the way........I think the best personal protection is a sawed off 410 shotgun. Little recoil, can be fired one handed, not powerful enough to go thru walls and kill your neighbor, and (being a shotgun) no expert marksmanship required. It might be a small bore scatter-gun but it still looks humongous from the barrel end.* I don't think you really need major killing power to stop the type of creeps we're talking about.* Just scare them enough and they'll run like hell and look for easier pickings somewhere else.
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Old 08-30-2008, 01:40 PM   #14
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Wow, what a difference in preparation for the hurricanes. The Governor is providing leadership and direction on what to do. He is telling people to leave, he is providing transport for those who have none.There is a plan in place, the animals have kennels, some people are actually following directions.

A change for the better.

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Speaking of boats & guns, while I still have a boat depending on Gustav sparing Old School, I bought a .410 pistol, 5 shot Taurus, very cool & popular w/ my gun buds. Talk about can't miss w/ your eyes closed, this thing is the bees knees.
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Old 08-31-2008, 08:59 AM   #16
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FF's note was a posting on this board, not an unsolicited e-mail sent to anybody. Why do you keep calling it spam?
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No need to apologize Mike!!!! Somebody's gotta keep FF in line!!!!...
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Back to the storm-
We are in a marina on the north side of Lake Ponchatrain- about 5 miles up river. Fixed piers. Katrina had about a 6 ft storm surge at the marina I am told. I extended the pilings an additional 3 ft using 2x6's attached with lag bolts and used tie wraps (shortened with a loop) on 2 sets of lines to keep the the boat in place till*the water rises and pops the loops out. When it drops I may get banged around a bit. Hope this works!
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Old 09-01-2008, 03:53 AM   #19
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"Why do you keep calling it spam?"

The left have their own version of REALITY.

History doesn't matter , there are no Facts , its all an emotion ,

and ANYONE that doesn't express the current group think is a Heretic , so meaningless as a human.

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Old 09-01-2008, 08:07 AM   #20
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Steady high wind & pretty strong gusts here in Baton Rouge, not as much rain as I thought there would be. Gustav seems reluctant to come ashore, wish it would and get the hell out of here. Any other hurricane reports?
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