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Old 03-12-2018, 05:17 PM   #1
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Greetings all,

My wife has a 38 special hand gun and carry permit. She purchased it so its in her name. Does anyone know if I can legally make it part of the "ships equipment" and keep it on board even if she is not?

I am taking the boat from Ga to Florida and then to the Bahamas. I think I understand the Bahamian rules of declaring the gun upon entry but not sure about the rules if I get boarded by the CG or god forbid had to use it for defense.

Thanks for any comments or guidance on the matter.
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Old 03-12-2018, 05:21 PM   #2
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What exactly is "in her name?"
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Old 03-12-2018, 05:36 PM   #3
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This seems pretty straight forward. If you don't have a permit, you can't legally have a gun. If the boat is not her official residence, she can't leave her gun there either.
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do you have to have a permit to have a gun?? the only permit you have to have is to buy it and you leave it at the store. you do have to have a concealed carry to conceal it. I don't know where the whole boat thing comes into play so I leave mine at home.(or do I)
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In the southern states, there is nothing wrong with having a gun on the boat. There is no registration, no permits, no nothing needed. Just be safe with it. I have been boarded by the coasties and always tell them there are guns in X location. No big deal to them.

In northern states, things are different, but I do not go there and do not know their rules.

In the Bahamas, you need to declare your weapons on entry, with serial number and ammo count (exactly), and weapons must be locked up securely while there and NOT used while there. No plinking in the Bahamas!!
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For commercial vessels. http://m.amo-union.net/article.php?a=676

But slightly different for yachts. Iíd recommend calling and getting Bahamian regulations in writing. Florida regulations in writing. And Ga regs in writing.

http://www.professionalmariner.com/D...2014/firearms/

Reiterating the federal form to have filled out.
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...so I leave mine at home.(or do I)
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Not to start an argument but.... I think most people are better off with loaded flare guns rather than loaded handguns. Flareguns are cheaper, easier to explain to officials why you have them, anyone hit with a flare will stop what they are doing, if you think you can hit something with a handgun then you should be able to hit them with a flare, a miss with a flare is ALOT more impressive than with a handgun. You hit the wrong person or thing with a flare the repercussions are ALOT less.

Downside flareguns are slower to reload so you need more of them.
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There really is something very wrong in a country and people that feel they can't go anywhere without a device for killing humans.

50 years on this planet and never once have I wanted or felt the need to have one and the majority of the planet thinks the same way.

Think on that.
Most Americans don't own guns. Last data that I have seen is that for 2016, gun ownership was around 36% of the population. Of this, some are for defense, but many are guns used for hunting.

I fall in the majority and don't own a gun. Not getting into the politics as this isn't the time or place to do so.

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I declared my firearm in the Bahamas, they counted rounds, I locked it up, end of story. The one requirement they did have was the firearm be in a locked case.

As far as not needing a firearm, if you have ever encountered a restafarian (spelling) boat coming at you fast and stopping you, you’re pretty glad you have someone in the cabin who would be able to get the job done. Happened in my crossing on my sea ray 10 years ago. Luckily they didn’t think we were drug runners after the asked, “where’s the party mon?” The response was “no party here” and gunned it outta there. My sea ray had a 454 engine and was capable of outrunning their much larger boat. I observed a firearm on their boat next to the cooler one of them was sitting on. My daughter who they didn’t see was in the cabin with a loaded 9mm ready to take a shot if need be. (She was trained by deputies) So, do I need one? Probably not with the boat I have now. Do I carry one? Absolutely.
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I spent 30 years on the fire department and did not own a gun. After I retired I began flyfishing in Alaska. I purchased a hand gun and took a two day gun safety so I became comfortable with it.

I now own two guns and plan to have one on the boat when I travel.

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To say it's sad that someone owns a gun with the intent of shooting someone is a sad state of affairs for the country. This is your perspective. While I do not have a CCP (carry a weapon), I cannot tell you how much I disagree with you. Turn on the news in any major city. I can tell you there are many stories of people who wish they had a gun.

Do I plan on shooting someone? No, it would be my worst nightmare. I could if I had to tho.
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There really is something very wrong in a country and people that feel they can't go anywhere without a device for killing humans.

50 years on this planet and never once have I wanted or felt the need to have one and the majority of the planet thinks the same way.

Think on that.
I certainly do not feel like I need a gun with me anywhere I go. Quite the contrary. I never carry a weapon on my daily travels and certainly am no gun nut. But I do keep two guns on the boat. I actually had to brandish one to confront what was likely thieves or druggies on a skiff approaching to board my anchored boat in the middle of the night. Still in the USA, but ten miles from nowhere. Just the sight of it and they hauled a$$, actually running up a nearby bank. I never fired a shot, but dang sure glad I had the rifle.

Not everywhere in the USA is civilized. Or areas in other countries. Travel there and you need to be able to protect yourself, crew and vessel.
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I am so tired of gun threads, gun discussions and gun control debates. Drop your friggin' guns and go boating.
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There really is something very wrong in a country and people that feel they can't go anywhere without a device for killing humans.

50 years on this planet and never once have I wanted or felt the need to have one and the majority of the planet thinks the same way.

Think on that.
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This seems pretty straight forward. If you don't have a permit, you can't legally have a gun. If the boat is not her official residence, she can't leave her gun there either.
not true, I legally have a gun with no permit.

ok with even NJ prosecuters offices.

just cant sell it or give it to someone without a transfer permit.

because I live i. NJ, I havent owned ammunition in 10 years.

maybe if I lived elsewhere, I could agree that personal safety without guns is easy, but I dont live there, I live here so misplaced guidance is easy to ignore.

the best advice given on forums about travelling with guns is to make a list of jurisdictions travelling through.

Then go to the gun legislation authorities to find out your requirements. One answer does not fit all.
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I have 1 12-ga marine pump shotgun. The stock is painted orange with "Flare Gun" stenciled in black. It shoots 12-ga flares an amazing distance. There may also be some buckshot rounds in the boat for "sharks".

Better to "have it an not need it" than "need it and not have it."
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Okay, I'll provide the OP with some factual information for him to utilize:

First, neither Florida or Georgia require that a firearm be registered or a permit to purchase a gun.

There is no such thing as "in his/her name" in these states. While your wife may have bought the gun, as long as you are not prohibited from owning or possessing a gun (felon, domestic violence injunction, adjudicated mentally incompetent, and some others...) then you can.

Having a gun on a boat has been discussed numerous times but you need to make sure that if it is in your possession while in Georgia or Florida that you do not have it concealed. You CAN have it in a zippered case (loaded or unloaded) and store it that way.

When you get to the Bahamas, as Donna said, you declare it, advise on the number of rounds that you have and you keep it locked up.

I carry a gun for a living and it goes with me to the Bahamas when I do.
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Simi 60 lives in a country where almost every animal or insect is a device for killing humans... LOL
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