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Old 07-26-2013, 02:18 PM   #21
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Here are the links to part 2 and 3 of this story that I found for those interested.

A Life-Changing Journey, Part 2 Surviving Hell. | Classic Boat News / Woody Boater

A Life-Changing Journey, Part 3 Picking Up The Pieces. | Classic Boat News / Woody Boater
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Old 07-26-2013, 02:49 PM   #22
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I usually run from the bridge because I have better visibility all around. The lower helm is my choice in rain because of the comfort & the wipers keep the windshield clear, much better than trying to see thru isinglass with water drops streaming down it. I have a good 360 view from the lower helm, if my aft view was not good I would not be comfortable running from the lower helm. My boat is not fast I was once passed by a tow going upriver, I was running about 1000 rpm & he only had 3 or 4 barges. In poor visibility conditions on a boat with limited aft visibility I could of well missed him. Where there is other marine traffic the captain needs to pilot the boat & not be having a lot of interaction with guest, do that while anchored out of the channel. I probably don't practice what I preach as well as I should but this story should help me remember to be safer while piloting my boat
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Old 07-26-2013, 03:18 PM   #23
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Since most every boat/ship on the water is faster than the Coot, we're frequently passed. I make it a habit to look back every few minutes. Fortunately, there is good rearward visibility, with the dinghy only slightly reducing the view. The helm is on the opposite side of the dink.

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Old 07-26-2013, 04:11 PM   #24
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We see these types of SHIPS on the Columbia River all the time. Want something scary, try being on the hook in a tributary near the confluence of the Columbia and one of these ships come by. They suck the water right out of the tributary, causing you to break anchor and pulling you with the big suck! Then it reverses and sends you back up the small river.
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Old 07-26-2013, 08:27 PM   #25
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AK SD,
Now that sucks.

One of the reasons I like Willy. Very good visibility all around.
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Old 07-26-2013, 10:01 PM   #26
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Boats don`t have rear view mirrors. The view aft, unless helming from the FB, is often obstructed. Does anyone have a rear view camera, like ones activated on some autos with bad rear vision, by selecting reverse? I`m guessing larger vessels have cameras all around.
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Old 07-26-2013, 10:09 PM   #27
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One of the reasons I like Willy. Very good visibility all around.
Not as good as "Willy" but my windows get the job done.
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Old 07-26-2013, 10:16 PM   #28
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Another good reason for an autopilot....

If you are in waters where freighters are...they are usually perfect waters for trawlers to be on autopilot.

When I am on autopilot at my lower station....I am totally relaxed...walking around, looking around 365 degrees, even walking outside to check weather, exhaust, overall condition of the boat and TRAFFIC.

Those who poo poo autopilot...don't have a clue.
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Old 07-26-2013, 10:20 PM   #29
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Those who poo poo autopilot...don't have a clue.
Very true! (But you can't convince them of that.)
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Originally Posted by manyboats

One of the reasons I like Willy. Very good visibility all around.


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Same here...Double sliding doors aft (open in warm weather) and glass all around provides great visibility in all directions from the lower helm. It only gets better from the flybridge.







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Old 07-26-2013, 11:48 PM   #32
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When I am on autopilot at my lower station....I am totally relaxed...walking around, looking around 365 degrees, even walking outside to check weather, exhaust, overall condition of the boat and TRAFFIC.
Agree. On the Coot, Otto is usually steering, and I'm on lookout duty.
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Old 07-27-2013, 04:29 AM   #33
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Interesting story.

But there's a very serious missing link.

Why didn't they see the freighter?

What did I miss?
... You didnt miss anything mate

I agree with you and was wondering the same thing .

Like everything tho, there's two sides to every story and this is his time to have a about what he thinks had happend, all beit leaving out the part where he didnt see or hear a massive ship sailing up his arse! ... LOL ... ...

Im just taking it as it is mate and not looking into it to much or looking at it any more than a reminder to be vigilant
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And what we were just talking about. Another one this morning on the Hudson!! I hope we didn't jinx them!!

Bride, Best Man Missing in Boat Crash

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A bride and a man who was set to be the best man at her wedding in two weeks are missing after the boat they were on struck a barge on the Hudson River Friday night.
Four others, including the groom, were hurt in the crash near the Tappan Zee Bridge.
The Coast Guard said six people were on a 21-foot Stingray near Piermont when it hit the barge at around 10:40 p.m.
Police say the missing woman was set to get married on Aug. 10.

The four people who were injured were taken to the hospital and officials described their injuries as severe, including head trauma and broken bones.
Investigators say that while it would have been dark in the area at the time of the crash, the barge was lit up.
It was unclear how fast the boat was going.
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Old 07-27-2013, 01:00 PM   #35
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I saw that story its sad for the victims and their families at a time when happiness should be front and center.

Things usually go bad when one or more wrongs is happening at the same time either, weather, speed, inattentiveness, alcohol, vessel malfunction, joking around, etc.

If only one wrong is going on you can usually save it.
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What a senseless waste of those young lives. And how horrible for those who survived.

Six young people in a 21' go-fast at 10:30 at night. Although "It was unclear how fast the boat was going", I'm willing to take a guess. I'd also be willing to put some money on the outcome of the toxicology tests. But I'll withhold judgement until we know for sure.

To be fair, it's easy to miss a barge at night, especially if it's empty, especially from a small boat low to the water. Right now I'm looking at a 31' boat whose owner tells a story about almost running into one at night. Only the lack of city lights where he knew they should be clued him in that the barge was even there.

Just like the original topic of this thread, it comes down to maintaining a proper lookout. That means taking into account the conditions. Like slowing down at night so you can see things BEFORE you hit them.
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To be fair, it's easy to miss a barge at night, especially if it's empty, especially from a small boat low to the water. Right now I'm looking at a 31' boat whose owner tells a story about almost running into one at night. Only the lack of city lights where he knew they should be clued him in that the barge was even there....
I agree, especially a barge at the end of a long tow such as this at night:

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Perhaps knowing what the 2 or 3 vertical lights on the tugboat mean would help to some degree ...
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I came under the Tappan zee bridge at around 1030 this morning pushing a load of scrap steel enroute from Albany. No boats around there on this transit, but many Kamikazi small boats further down near The Battery. Several Kayakers want a closer look and got in attack mode. 400' plus tow, several thousand tons of steel with a 1.5 knot fair tide does not make a good sight seeing attraction.
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Perhaps knowing what the 2 or 3 vertical lights on the tugboat mean would help to some degree ...
Yup. My thoughts exactly.
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