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Old 02-11-2018, 09:13 AM   #1
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Give a Windlass a break

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I have a Nordlund 62 with a chain and stainless cable rode. How can I tie off the cable when on anchor to ease off pressure on the Windlass? Thanks!
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standard item is either a snubber, one nylon line with a chain hook, or a bridle which is two nylon lines with a chain grabber. some use a rubber stretch device which has an eye on each end for a nylon line.

basically some sort of snubber device is almost universal among those who anchor regularly. Otherwise the pressure on the windlass is damaging and the jerking from the waves will crack the windlass' break pin.
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Gotcha. I would like to tie a bridle to two very robust cleats. I need help a figuring out how to attach it to the stainless cable Thank you
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You can make your own snubber...or buy one of these: https://www.mantusmarine.com/snubber-pendant/
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Shouldn't it be tied to a post and not the windlass?

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I believe the OP is looking for a way to Snub the stainless cable.. not chain
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There is a grabber made for that. Try a rigging store or a lineman supply site. I am assuming you have a reel of stainless cable (stran). Put the grabber on, clamp it with nylon rigged then let off the windlass.

This is what you need.

http://www.linemen-tools.com/Strand_Grips_s/925.htm
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If the cable winds onto a drum, is it designed to take the load without a snubber?
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If the cable winds onto a drum, is it designed to take the load without a snubber?
The stretch of a nylon snubber reducing shock might also be a factor for both comfort and helping the equipment.

Regarding my verbiage of “grabber” vs “grip” in post 7. Grabber was sometimes used as slang in the field. The proper name is grip.
A call to the company listed with specs of your anchor cable might be in order to be sure you get the right one and one that will not injure or damage your anchor cable.
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There is a grabber made for that. Try a rigging store or a lineman supply site. I am assuming you have a reel of stainless cable (stran). Put the grabber on, clamp it with nylon rigged then let off the windlass.

This is what you need.

Strand Grips
Would those hold in bouncy conditions or do they require a consistent load?

Maybe a Klemheist knot would work without kinking the wire;

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I have a Nordlund 62 with a chain and stainless cable rode. How can I tie off the cable when on anchor to ease off pressure on the Windlass? Thanks!
Are you certain you have a windlass?
Cable is most often wound on the drum of an actual winch, which is likely operated by hydraulics.
This type of system is normally designed to handle high loading, though it may also have a brake or an anti reverse dog as well to take the load when the power is off.
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Thanks all

I apologize I had my wisdom teeth out at 52. Screwed up my sinuses and barely van read the post

Exactly, snub to stainless cable

Its electric it is only one way perhaps a winch The entire rode is on a drum as you mentioned. It has a hand wheel that engages a friction clutch Which is
Can be tough to break loose. Perhaps I am trying to save my arms then the windlass


The klemjiem knot will work on cable?
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You have from the final description, I think, a typical Fisherman's winch used in the Washington, British COlumbia, Alaska area.

Link to photos:
http://www.trawlerforum.com/forums/s...nch-13768.html

Is this similar to what you have?

THey are not weak kneed units and do not need the load taken off of them the way our prettier windlasses do.

They are meant to hold the boat on the drum. The drum should have some means of being locked against running out , usually with a toothed wheel and a pawl.

Yours for a pleasure boat may be prettier than the typical Fisherman's unit but it sounds similar in operation.

Now a snubber may be a different matter to take the shock load of surging out of the system. The cable clamps MAY work. Quite commonly used in heavy electrical work. But you would need one that will grip the steel cable.

Check with an electrical wholesaler.


I can think of a couple ways of getting shock absorption without a so called typical snubber but I'll bet it would take some design/engineering which is beyond me without a lot of fooling around.

A photo of YOUR winch/windlass may help avoid a lot of guess work.
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If it begins to blow the lack of shock absorbing in cable can give a poor ride aboard.

To let the boat check ,softer a heavy killet (weight) sliding on the cable lowered almost to the water depth will give some spring to the system.
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What happens when the load is taken off the drum? Doesn’t the cable on the drum birdsnest? It does for me on any winch I have ever owned.
I would be worried that a cable gripper will nick and weaken the cable.
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The drum is very similar to the nes pictured on the link referenced above. I would like to post a picture put I need to find out how to upload a pic to the cloud it appears to post here (any advise on this aspect is greatly appreciated)

No toothed wheel and pawl just the friction wheel. As you mentioned it certainly doesn't look like a weak kneed unit. There is a pin that engages the electric motor I leave open to ensure the motor doesn't receive any shock if the drum would slip, thoughts?
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Why would you want cable, especially stainless?
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Would those hold in bouncy conditions or do they require a consistent load?

Maybe a Klemheist knot would work without kinking the wire;

Hey that Klemheist knot looks pretty handy, i havent seen that one before. Would the Klemheist work better than a rolling hitch...? (sorry about heisting the thread
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I'll bite.
Why would you want cable, especially stainless?
I’ll guess that wire on a reel for less volume over chain but what’s wrong with stainless?
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I’ll guess that wire on a reel for less volume over chain but what’s wrong with stainless?
Stainless has a working load below that of the same size and configuration galvanized.
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