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01-12-2020, 08:29 AM
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Guru
City: Jacksonville
Vessel Name: SONAS
Vessel Model: Grand Alaskan 53
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 7,235
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Ghost Gear
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01-12-2020, 08:49 PM
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Guru
City: Bethlehem, PA
Vessel Name: Lady Kay V
Vessel Model: 1978 Hatteras 53MY
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 1,098
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Humans are a pretty messy species.
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01-12-2020, 10:00 PM
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Guru
City: Kitimat, North Coast BC
Vessel Name: Badger
Vessel Model: 30' Sundowner Tug
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 5,946
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"The most interesting path between two points is not a straight line" MurrayM
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01-14-2020, 10:39 PM
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Guru
City: Gibsons, B.C., Canada
Vessel Name: Island Pride
Vessel Model: Palmer 32'
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 4,414
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Yes, we are.
I know there are things I'm doing ignorantly that in 10 yr [hah 5 yrs] will be vilified.
But it does not help when people won't try at all even though they know the end results or argue there is no problem.
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01-15-2020, 12:09 AM
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Guru
City: Kitimat, North Coast BC
Vessel Name: Badger
Vessel Model: 30' Sundowner Tug
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 5,946
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Quote:
Originally Posted by C lectric
...But it does not help when people won't try at all even though they know the end results or argue there is no problem.
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Read a saying from the Wolof (spelling?) people of Africa, which went something like:
To not know is bad.
To not want to know is worse.
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01-15-2020, 05:43 AM
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Guru
City: Aventura FL
Vessel Name: Kinja
Vessel Model: American Tug 34 #116 2008
Join Date: Oct 2017
Posts: 10,595
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I am surprised the various govt. authorities do not require an ID tag on all nets.
People ID the crab and lobster pots and get mighty PO at someone raiding their pots so why not nets too.
Side note, ever think about plucking a lobster or two from a pot? Where do you leave the money?? LOL Perhaps put the money in a mason jar or plastic bottle with a note, thanking them and put it in the trap? "I took 2 lobsters from your pot for dinner.", then include a $20 bill?
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01-15-2020, 05:51 AM
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Guru
City: Ft Pierce
Vessel Name: Sold
Vessel Model: Was an Albin/PSN 40
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 28,149
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Many of the "ghost nets" I saw in the north pacific were from shipping and other vessels cutting though these massive areas of nets. Some nets were over 20 miles long by themselves. Long nets are now banned but "ghost nets" were common when these long nets got sliced/broken up.
Imagine the "maze" to get through them when 25-50 vessels were working an area of ocean.
There were strung out so far and wide and close to one another, there was no maneuvering through them. The sips turning radius wouldn't allow it and they were so poorly marked, in some conditions you couldn't see them until on top of them.
I bet there are cut pieces of nets floating around for decades after they were cut.
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01-15-2020, 08:09 AM
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Guru
City: Fort Myers, FL... Summers in the Great Lakes
Vessel Name: Slow Hand
Vessel Model: Cherubini Independence 45
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 12,834
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My recollection is that the crabbing and lobstering fisheries are required to have doors that dissolve over time to keep ghost pots from continuing to trap and kill. Seems like the netting fisheries need to be required to go to biodegradable nets or atleast the attachment cordage that holds the floats on. From decades of scuba diving shipwrecks, it became clear that losing nets wasn't the problem as much as the floats holding a portion of the net up to catch fish. Once we cut the balls off, the nets would settle to the bottom and disappear into the bottom in a year or two.
Ted
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01-15-2020, 08:35 AM
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Guru
City: Coupeville Wa.
Vessel Name: Pacific Myst
Vessel Model: West Bay 4500
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 2,413
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01-15-2020, 08:37 AM
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Guru
City: Oconto, WI
Vessel Name: Best Alternative
Vessel Model: 36 Albin Aft Cabin
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 3,145
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I just cringe when I see helium balloon releases. These things will eventually up in the ocean or other water.
Thank God we see less and less of them these days.
pete
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01-15-2020, 12:07 PM
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Guru
City: Tri Cities, WA
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 4,406
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I know it's a small thing but it's a way we can contribute...whenever we're in the dinghy I use the small fishing net to pick trash out of the water. It's not a lot, but at the end of a day running around we often have 10-12 pieces of plastic or other litter.
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1981 Boston Whaler 13'
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01-15-2020, 02:04 PM
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Scraping Paint
City: Lake Stevens, WA via Honolulu
Vessel Name: 'Au Kai (Ocean Traveler)
Vessel Model: C-Dory 25
Join Date: Sep 2019
Posts: 450
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Quote:
Originally Posted by O C Diver
My recollection is that the crabbing [and lobstering] fisheries are required to have doors that dissolve over time to keep ghost pots from continuing to trap and kill. Ted
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Yes. In the PNW shrimp & crab pots require escape openings of a certain size, held closed by cotton twine that quickly rots in the marine environment.
Most “stolen pots “ are not stolen at all, but carried by the strong currents here due to large tidal changes. Light, cheap pots can be carried for miles. I weigh our pots down (eg: shrimp pots are about 40#) and use large, round fenders as secondary floats; the small floats mandated by law do not have enough lift to remain on the surface in a big current.
I assume lobster pots are the same. No lobsters up here tho...
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01-15-2020, 02:09 PM
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Scraping Paint
City: Lake Stevens, WA via Honolulu
Vessel Name: 'Au Kai (Ocean Traveler)
Vessel Model: C-Dory 25
Join Date: Sep 2019
Posts: 450
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GFC
I know it's a small thing but it's a way we can contribute...whenever we're in the dinghy I use the small fishing net to pick trash out of the water. It's not a lot, but at the end of a day running around we often have 10-12 pieces of plastic or other litter.
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We do the same. I’ve picked up flotsam of all types in Puget Sound. Even a helm chair, once.
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