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Old 10-11-2015, 11:28 AM   #21
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Ok so now I'm confused.
Sounds like Daddyo wouldn't take a GB 42 outside the Chesapeake or over to Freeport and Marin would shy away from an Alaska run. Bill thinks it would be fun to cruise one back from PR.
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Old 10-11-2015, 11:31 AM   #22
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Bill thinks it would be fun to cruise one back from PR.
Bill thinks it would be fun for him if someone else did that passage. Grab the popcorn!


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Grab the popcorn!
Just wunderin'.
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Old 10-11-2015, 01:57 PM   #24
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You can get a great condition GB46' for 150k and save yourself numerous headaches/projects. I love mine.
I agree, they are not ocean vessels - as you can readily tell by looking at the superstructure, but running 25 miles or more offshore is fine if you keep a weather eye.
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No, I'd do it in a heart beat.

Your going in the right direction. It's island hopping. And I'd pick my weather and have no schedule.

I mean it more than likely got there on its own bottom.
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Old 10-11-2015, 02:45 PM   #26
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A smooth sea never made a skilled sailor.
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Old 10-11-2015, 02:58 PM   #27
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No, I'd do it in a heart beat.

Your going in the right direction. It's island hopping. And I'd pick my weather and have no schedule.
I agree 100%, taking a Grand Banks 42' or 46' up or down island from South FLA is a no brainer: these boats are made for coastal passages just like this. again, common sense rules: pick your weather, have a well maintained and reliable vessel, a semi-reliable crew, a minimal schedule, and just enjoy the ride. In fact, if you island hop through the Bahamas its probably an easier run than the Gulf of Maine in November or May.

I've cruised and island hopped from Miami all the way down to Trinidad and Tobago on slightly larger vessels - but its all one and the same. common sense rules.

Now, to emphasize my point: I would not recommend taking these vessels to the Azores even if you could figure out a way to double the fuel stowage onboard.
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Old 10-11-2015, 03:30 PM   #28
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You might want to look at the DeFever's... They have similar lines and build quality to the Grand Banks. Art DeFever even designed the Alaskan for Grand Banks. They have various models in the 40'-46' range in your price range that might be a good option. I've lived aboard my DeFever 41 for the last 3 years and she is a very comfortable cruiser. Very similar layout to the GB42 with a U-shaped galley that I prefer.

I also love the Kadey Krogen's, but they tend to be more expensive.
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While GBs are not ocean crossers, they are solid boats and when stabilized make good cruisers. Even down island.

And as far build quality, systems lay out and fit and finish goes, they are in the top of the line category. And head and shoulders above many of the other "trawlers" out there. You just don't find the short cuts and half assed workmanship in a GB that you see in many other boats.
You said the right things.
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A smooth sea never made a skilled sailor.

Perhaps. But waiting for smooth seas marks a wise one.
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Perhaps. But waiting for smooth seas marks a bored one.
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Old 10-12-2015, 05:36 AM   #32
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No. You have mis-quoted Bill, which fixes nothing. On the contrary in my view.

If you buy a GB 42 for $125k or under you will be buying a project boat. Beyond the 'doing some work' stage. It will quite easily end up costing you 100% of purchase price to get a half decent result, and it still wont be up to the standard you could have got for the same money. Typically people will get back 50-70% of the money they spend on R&M. So you win by buying one that has already had the work done, even if doing some of the work yourself. I looked at quite a lot of 'em before going off in a different direction.

Even at $170k or so there will still be stuff needing to be done but you will be able to do it over time. There shouldn't be any crises need immediate attention. I found a couple at that level that I almost moved on.

Now your budget is a nice amount of money, no question. You should be able to get a very nice boat. But if you try to stretch to a GB 42 with it, it might well end in a sorry mess instead.
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Seriously!?

I might be wrong of course, but as a professional I've alway thought it was my duty to everything I can to lessen the chances of injury to my crew, owner and guests. As well as possible damage to the vessel.

I guessing the crew of the El Faro would have agreed.
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You might want to look at the DeFever'.
Yes. Lots of storage, big ERs and designed and built for off shore passages.

BTW, Insequent did as thorough a job possible on his refit of the OA 50. I for one listen to him carefully
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Perhaps. But waiting for smooth seas marks a wise one.

The young and naive think they want to challenge rough conditions. IMO the experienced know better.
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Very true! But it did make a lot of old ones!
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Re Daddyo's remarks about the GB the DF isn't w/o fault either.

I wouldn't kick a GB out of contention for their lack of being the perfect perfect storm boat. I'm partial to FD boats and the DF in not but the're very good boats .. as are the GB's. Flare is not all of the "wet boat" issue (that I'm sure most GB owners don't consider much of an issue (if at all)) but other features are a big part of it .. like a very far fwd wheelhouse w lots of glass. That has it's own ramifications that I'm sure Daddyo has considered in his remarks. Trawlers aren't passagemakers and if one was to consider the optimum layout for a passagemaker one would'nt want one either.

I don't think seaworthyness is a negative w the GB. Not a glowing positive either.
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Ok so now I'm confused.
Sounds like Daddyo wouldn't take a GB 42 outside the Chesapeake or over to Freeport and Marin would shy away from an Alaska run. Bill thinks it would be fun to cruise one back from PR.
I went back and read what Daddyo said about the GB and didn't find it that damming at all. I don't think they are so lacking in bouyancy fwd. they have a deep forefoot giving bouyancy below the level of the keel on most boats. Never heard of a GB loosing her wheelhouse windows from head seas either.

PR? Prince Rupert? Don't need much of a sea boat for that. One of our members paddled those waters in a kayak.
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PR? Prince Rupert?
Puerto Rico.
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Puerto Rico.
And I met someone who paddle boarded around it.
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