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Old 01-05-2017, 10:36 PM   #1
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Garbage Management Ideas

Our cruising style is to primarily anchor out, stopping by a marina occasionally as needed for re-provisioning, laundry, fuel, pump-out, etc. Depending on our schedule, or lack of it, we can sometimes accumulate enough garbage to have to figure out what to do with it until we can get rid of it on shore. When this subject has come up among other cruisers, it seems like there's always someplace to stash it - in the dinghy, in a designated cockpit locker, in the lazarette, double-bagged on deck, etc. - not a huge problem, but I'm curious about how you handle it. Any unique garbage management ideas?

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I think part of the answer is to eliminate as much packaging before you take it on board or even repack food .I know this half's our garbage
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We buy in bulk as much as possible and as was suggested already unpackage it and leave the packaging at the store garbage cans. As far as storing it onboard, we use the scented garbage bags which help to some extent. Where to store it would vary with the boats configuration. I would be careful about storing it where it would attract animals.
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the answer to # 2 is good, in addition, I suggest you all the packets and jars and the like. if you can think of, they take up less space by putting nested, folding, compressing the flat, cut into pieces.


think of the plastic bottle. open the cap slightly, squeeze all the air out, the cap and the bottle takes up less space, or you cut through the bottle and putting them on top of what the savings volume.


if you have even the can you can fill it with other debris, before you put it in the bin.
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I have made the decision to go with nothing but canned beer instead of bottled beer. I don't drink a lot, but those bottles can add up in a hurry. Cans can be crushed. One of my winter research projects is to find palatable canned beer.
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I have made the decision to go with nothing but canned beer instead of bottled beer. I don't drink a lot, but those bottles can add up in a hurry. Cans can be crushed. One of my winter research projects is to find palatable canned beer.

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I'm a recycler. So I tend to sort stuff, flatten boxes, and nest similar stuff. Much of the food items either come in carboard boxes, cans, or plastic containers. I rinse off the cans and plastic containers, let them dry, and then nest them the next morning. Have medium size tote bins for the plastic, metal and glass. Flattening the carboard boxes allows me to wedge them between 2 bins under the sink. What's left is fairly small and fills a 5 gallon bucket (with trash bag liner) in about a week, so easy to empty at every marina stop. The totes are in the lazarette, and stuff is added to them only once per day.

Might sound like a lot of extra work, but it's pretty quick if you develop a routine. Part of the motivation to rinse the stuff off before storing it, is to keep flys and bugs from having a food source on the boat.

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I favor mixed drinks while cruising and it reduces trash but does increase my ice consumption. We also try to minimize paper towel usage and hand wash dish rags and kitchen towels. We also rinse out cans pretty well and try to consolidate our potentially smelly trash into zip locks that I can't reuse. For example, frozen meat is packed in zip lock bags and I can't reuse those but I will rinse it out and set it to the side, inside of the trash can and then when I have foul trash like a can of drippings, it goes into the zip lock. Full trash bags go into the lazarette.
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I have always wondered why it's perfectly legal to grind up a fish and throw it overboard as "chum" but if you cook the fish first, eat it and throw the leftovers and bones overboard, it's now "garbage" and illegal.

That said, it seems to work out that we are in a marina at least every second or third day so we just keep our trash and garbage in bags and deposit it at the marina. With just two adults and a puppy, we don't generate a lot of trash or garbage.
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I have made the decision to go with nothing but canned beer instead of bottled beer. I don't drink a lot, but those bottles can add up in a hurry. Cans can be crushed. One of my winter research projects is to find palatable canned beer.
Bottles can be broken and will take up less space. The trick of course is to find a safe way to do this.
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One of my winter research projects is to find palatable canned beer.
Give Freemont Brewing a try.

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I favor mixed drinks while cruising and it reduces trash but does increase my ice consumption.
I've upped my game and buy a better bottle of whiskey. Sip it straight.

Whatever you do please don't adopt the practice of breaking bottles to sink them. I've talked to a few who think that's OK. I't not, the glass won't break down.
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I have made the decision to go with nothing but canned beer instead of bottled beer. I don't drink a lot, but those bottles can add up in a hurry. Cans can be crushed. One of my winter research projects is to find palatable canned beer.

Yeah, crushable canned beer and sodas, a few crushable plastic bottles for some cheap liquors in the bar (usually gin, vodka, tequila, in our case). Partly also because when we had big dogs aboard, I worried about potential effects of accidentally-broken glass, too.

We keep a small synthetic cutting board in the cockpit, mostly used as a stomp pad for crushing.

No plastic water bottles on board. Instead, we filter water as it comes on board, and the re-filter actual drinking water into a filter pitcher kept in the fridge. (Brita, etc.; ours happens to be Pur, selected by size and shape for its fridge location.


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Sip it straight.

Yep. Any more than one ingredient, it becomes too much work. Ice would be an ingredient, too...

Although I do allow a dispensation on that one for martinis: fill glass with ice, fill glass with gin (or vodka), sip.



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Our Bayliner came from the factory with a trash smasher.

Works great, and reduces the trash volume several bags to one.
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I'm a recycler. So I tend to sort stuff, flatten boxes, and nest similar stuff. Much of the food items either come in carboard boxes, cans, or plastic containers. I rinse off the cans and plastic containers, let them dry, and then nest them the next morning. Have medium size tote bins for the plastic, metal and glass. Flattening the carboard boxes allows me to wedge them between 2 bins under the sink. What's left is fairly small and fills a 5 gallon bucket (with trash bag liner) in about a week, so easy to empty at every marina stop. The totes are in the lazarette, and stuff is added to them only once per day.

Might sound like a lot of extra work, but it's pretty quick if you develop a routine. Part of the motivation to rinse the stuff off before storing it, is to keep flys and bugs from having a food source on the boat.

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Give Freemont Brewing a try.

I've upped my game and buy a better bottle of whiskey. Sip it straight.

Whatever you do please don't adopt the practice of breaking bottles to sink them. I've talked to a few who think that's OK. I't not, the glass won't break down.

I will look for the Fremont. I should be able to find it.

When I was a kid our family cruised for a couple weeks (on our San Juan 24) with another couple in their Erickson 27. The guy in the 27 would always toss his beer bottle over side the side and then shoot at it with a pump pellet gun until he broke it.

There certainly was the attitude that stuff that sunk, like metal and glass, wasn't going to be a problem 200+ feet down.
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I have always wondered why it's perfectly legal to grind up a fish and throw it overboard as "chum" but if you cook the fish first, eat it and throw the leftovers and bones overboard, it's now "garbage" and illegal.

That said, it seems to work out that we are in a marina at least every second or third day so we just keep our trash and garbage in bags and deposit it at the marina. With just two adults and a puppy, we don't generate a lot of trash or garbage.
caricature from this starts to look when cut down waste, fertilizers and the like filth into the sea. Here baltic sea blue-green algal blooms for a few weeks and, at worst, it looks like this. thaks Russian people, their industry and other shit like. rivers flows along the Baltic Sea. Something improvements have been made, but clearance will last a really long time


Although we have the sea here, the water does not change and we do not have the tide. waste in the ocean it causes eutrophication, therefore, forbidden to you, maybe


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Dave if you need a research assistant for your canned beer project I will take one for the team and make myself available.
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Whatever you do please don't adopt the practice of breaking bottles to sink them. I've talked to a few who think that's OK. I't not, the glass won't break down.
Indeed, I met a sailor one day who was very proud to explain me how he did managed trashes by only using glass bottle that he was throwing overboard when in deep water
He was very surprised when I told him that this is not because it won't been seen anymore that it won't exist anymore...
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Dave if you need a research assistant for your canned beer project I will take one for the team and make myself available.
Thanks, what a great offer!
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Does anybody knows this composter?

naturemill.com

I heard good thing about it and I wonder to try it or not. At least it allows reducing organic waste and does not have any odor or whatever. Of course it will work depending on how many people are onboard but for what I saw, for 2 it is enough to compost remainings if you are not prone to food waste.
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