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Old 01-31-2014, 12:23 PM   #81
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I used to think I was one of the few people who viewed my costs as a dollar a mile so I was glad to see you come out with it.
As to whether or not it is a serious cost, I suppose that is somewhat subjective and beauty is in the eye of the beholder .
For me, my summer bar bill is pretty close to my fuel bill. Those are the only two discretionary items I have so which one should I try and economize on next year?
Maybe neither!

For me it just turned out to be about $1/NM at expected fuel costs...which in my case is perfect to quick in the head budgeting.

I fully understand people that could care less about fuel burn...at times in my life...me too..didn't care about multiple mortgages with no renters either..big deal (for awhile at least). But major things can happen in a lifetime of ups and downs.

I hope for them they never have to worry about fuel costs..good for them..but some of us do.

The good new is I cruise for 4 months every year and in 5 or so more...it just may be all year....still watching fuel costs though..hopefully but they will only go up a little unless the cost of fuel goes up too.
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Old 01-31-2014, 01:04 PM   #82
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For me it just turned out to be about $1/NM at expected fuel costs...which in my case is perfect to quick in the head budgeting.

I fully understand people that could care less about fuel burn...at times in my life...me too..didn't care about multiple mortgages with no renters either..big deal (for awhile at least). But major things can happen in a lifetime of ups and downs.

I hope for them they never have to worry about fuel costs..good for them..but some of us do.

The good new is I cruise for 4 months every year and in 5 or so more...it just may be all year....still watching fuel costs though..hopefully but they will only go up a little unless the cost of fuel goes up too.
Crude oil derived fuel costs (diesel/gas/jet/bunker/kero) across the board will either go up or go down... but... they will not stay proportionately the same.

1. Reasons for Cost Up Side:
a. Inflation
b. Wars
c. Reduced new crude oil supply finds
d. Increased costs for deeper drilling / excavating, i.e. shales / refining
e. Cause the BIG Dino Boys have us by the balls and simply want to raise prices!

2. Reasons for Cost Down Side:
a. New feedstock energy sources get successfully developed that reduce needs for crude oil refining by having other means of producing drop-in fungible diesel and gasoline fuels. There are several types of plans on the drawing boards regarding this, and, if one or more becomes economically feasible, on a global scale, then a severe diesel and gasoline price war may ensue... thusly reduced fuel costs - at least for a while!
b. Poorer general economic conditions that make the BIG Boys lower fuel prices in attempt to keep volume up.

But, as I intone above - Da $$$ price for fuels we boaters require just ain't ta gonna stay same as today. And, prices could swing wildly in one direction or the other! Let's pray “2 a.” becomes our reality!

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or pressures in both directions could keep fuel right where it is plus/minus a dime or two...but please...take this discussion to where ever other nonsensical debates are in this website

if anyone even had a decent hint...that person could make Bill Gates look destitute.

but please...take this discussion to where ever other nonsensical debates are in this website...

I'll be glad to delete this post if we don't debate world crap in these threads...
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or pressures in both directions could keep fuel right where it is plus/minus a dime or two...

if anyone even had a decent hint...that person could make Bill gates look destitute.


There are several different hints... but to chose one and bet the farm...
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Crude oil derived fuel costs (diesel/gas/jet/bunker/kero) across the board will either go up or go down... but... they will not stay proportionately the same.

1. Reasons for Cost Up Side:
a. Inflation
b. Wars
c. Reduced new crude oil supply finds
d. Increased costs for deeper drilling / excavating, i.e. shales / refining
e. Cause the BIG Dino Boys have us by the balls and simply want to raise prices!

2. Reasons for Cost Down Side:
a. New feedstock energy sources get successfully developed that reduce needs for crude oil refining by having other means of producing drop-in fungible diesel and gasoline fuels. There are several types of plans on the drawing boards regarding this, and, if one or more becomes economically feasible, on a global scale, then a severe diesel and gasoline price war may ensue... thusly reduced fuel costs - at least for a while!
b. Poorer general economic conditions that make the BIG Boys lower fuel prices in attempt to keep volume up.

But, as I intone above - Da $$$ price for fuels we boaters require just ain't ta gonna stay same as today. And, prices could swing wildly in one direction or the other! Let's pray 2 a. becomes our reality!

Happy Power Boating Daze! - Art
Oh Art you forgot (TAX) Brother on the cost going up!!! What, in most cases it's about .60 per gal if not more? More than likely more!

Good post

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Oh Art you forgot (TAX) Brother on the cost going up!!! What, in most cases it's about .60 per gal if not more? More than likely more!

Good post

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