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01-08-2017, 02:26 PM
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City: Sarasota/Ft. Lauderdale
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Forget curtains, blinds or tint.
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01-10-2017, 04:29 PM
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City: New Orleans
Vessel Name: Panache
Vessel Model: Viking 43 Double Cabin '76
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Interesting, Capn Bill. Haven't had time to read in detail. It appears that the film goes opaque in the power-off mode. Also set up to work on DC. Anyone have experience with this material? Cost?
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01-10-2017, 05:15 PM
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City: Tacoma, WA & Ashland, OR
Vessel Name: boatless, ex: Seeadler
Vessel Model: RAWSON 41
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Seems to me that a system that "fails" to the blind mode ain't all that smart.
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01-10-2017, 05:22 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2014
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AlaskaProf
Seems to me that a system that "fails" to the blind mode ain't all that smart.
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Took the words right out of my mouth!
Bruce
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01-10-2017, 05:27 PM
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Guru
City: New Orleans
Vessel Name: Panache
Vessel Model: Viking 43 Double Cabin '76
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My thought, too, AP. But, as I said, haven't had time to thoroughly look at the piece. I may be incorrect.
Offf the subject, I didn't know Rawson made power boats. Admire the look of her!
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01-10-2017, 05:38 PM
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Guru
City: Tacoma, WA & Ashland, OR
Vessel Name: boatless, ex: Seeadler
Vessel Model: RAWSON 41
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sbu22
My thought, too, AP. But, as I said, haven't had time to thoroughly look at the piece. I may be incorrect.
Offf the subject, I didn't know Rawson made power boats. Admire the look of her!
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Thanks, she is a beauty, just acquired in May...one look closed the deal.
A friend once said: "You can compliment my wife, kids, my house, my dog. But if you want to make me feel really good, say something nice about my boat."
Actually, most Rawsons are powerboats, very stout workboats. Alaska is full of Rawson gillnetters and power-trollers. If you look at one of those clunky 30 foot sloops, its heritage shows.
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01-10-2017, 07:18 PM
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City: Sarasota/Ft. Lauderdale
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sbu22
Interesting, Capn Bill. Haven't had time to read in detail. It appears that the film goes opaque in the power-off mode. Also set up to work on DC. Anyone have experience with this material? Cost?
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I have not got a chance to work with it yet.
It does power off to opaque.
But I don't think that is such a big deal.
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01-10-2017, 07:21 PM
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City: Gig Harbor
Vessel Name: Kinship
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Capt.Bill11
I have not got a chance to work with it yet.
It does power off to opaque.
But I don't think that is such a big deal.
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The concern of course if there is some power failure, circuit failure, wiring fault etc.... suddenly you can't see out of your PH windows. That could be inconvenient to say the least.
My guess is that power on opaque is currently not possible with the technology.
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01-10-2017, 07:31 PM
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City: Sarasota/Ft. Lauderdale
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dhays
The concern of course if there is some power failure, circuit failure, wiring fault etc.... suddenly you can't see out of your PH windows. That could be inconvenient to say the least.
My guess is that power on opaque is currently not possible with the technology.
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It's only a concern if you don't have an upper helm.
Or radar.
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01-10-2017, 07:57 PM
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Member
City: Everett
Vessel Name: Defense Rest
Vessel Model: CHB
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I just couldn't handle the yellow stained nasty curtains any longer. Probably used too much bleach on the wash trial, Judging by the fabric tear... but I'll tone it down on the rest of them. I pulled them all out yesterday and I'm going to wash them all till I can find an affordable replacement. Sure smell better.....
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01-10-2017, 08:05 PM
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Guru
City: Tacoma, WA & Ashland, OR
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Well, I'm no engineer, but I've been taught that any properly designed system fails-to-safe. Seems to be a simple test.
How, exactly, is this better than curtains?
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01-10-2017, 08:22 PM
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City: Sarasota/Ft. Lauderdale
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AlaskaProf
How, exactly, is this better than curtains?
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It was a bit of hyperbole on my part obviously.
But there is also obviously a use for them. People just have to use their own judgement as to where and when.
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01-10-2017, 08:36 PM
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City: Tacoma, WA & Ashland, OR
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Capt.Bill11
But there is also obviously a use for them.
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Maybe on the south side of my house, but probably not on my boat...or my airplane.
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01-10-2017, 08:41 PM
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City: Sarasota/Ft. Lauderdale
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AlaskaProf
Maybe on the south side of my house, but probably not on my boat...or my airplane.
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See, you used your own judgement.
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01-10-2017, 09:45 PM
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City: Quebec
Vessel Name: Bleuvet
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Well electric opacity is nothing new. You can find electric reactive glass that will either go clear when on or the opposite go drk when on. This is has been used for places like public toilets or things like that. Only drawback is that you need constant alimentation to get the opposite state so may not be the most energy efficient depending of the usage and the price is quite high.
Some years ago I rebuilt a bathroom in my house and wanted to install a glass door that would become dark when light is on but at 2000$ it was a bit too much for me.
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01-11-2017, 10:52 AM
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Senior Member
City: Redlands
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36" x 36" = $531. Way too expensive for me.
Arch
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01-11-2017, 02:36 PM
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TF Site Team
City: California Delta
Vessel Name: FlyWright
Vessel Model: 1977 Marshall Californian 34 LRC
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I also would prefer power-OFF-to view. With proper power redundancy, the power-to-view issue shouldn't be a problem, especially if it's not used on the windshield glass. I like exterior canvas to keep the windshield clean and dry for those early morning departures.
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01-11-2017, 05:38 PM
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City: Wilmington, NC
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Arch
36" x 36" = $531. Way too expensive for me.
Arch
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Pretty cool stuff, but agree it's way too expensive for my boat budget.
Does anyone know if the wires are actually connected to the tint material?
If so, how would that work on a sliding window?
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01-12-2017, 09:40 AM
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TF Site Team
City: Saltspring Island
Vessel Name: Retreat
Vessel Model: C&L 44
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Posts: 5,656
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There is a very good reason the MVA prohibits a tint on the windshield and the front side windows in cars, at least in BC. The same should apply to the boat, unless you have no helm on that level.
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01-12-2017, 09:46 AM
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Guru
City: Gig Harbor
Vessel Name: Kinship
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Quote:
Originally Posted by koliver
There is a very good reason the MVA prohibits a tint on the windshield and the front side windows in cars, at least in BC. The same should apply to the boat, unless you have no helm on that level.
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That is what would be nice about this type of tinting technology. Tints on the windshield would be fine for bright sunny days but are dangerous in low light conditions.
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