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Old 06-22-2011, 03:40 PM   #1
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Florescent lights in Engine Room

One of mine died and I think I have to remove the entire assembly and take it apart to remove the bulb. *If I have to do this I was thinking of replacing it with an off-the-shelf unit. *Anyone know why this wouldn't be OK? *Diesel engine, no combustible fumes in the ER and lots of starter motors.

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Old 06-22-2011, 03:52 PM   #2
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Florescent lights in Engine Room

I bought a couple of armored light fixtures at Home depot. The kind with a cage around them.

*I use 12 volt lightbulbs from an RV store. They look just like a ordinary light bulb but they are 12 volt.* No need to run them with the inverter or noise maker.

*Works great.

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Old 06-22-2011, 07:01 PM   #3
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Florescent lights in Engine Room

I have been removing all of the old FL's and 12V bulbs from our fixtures. Instead I have installed LED's that come in waterproof strings....less power consumptions and far better lighting.... Got them from http://www.superbrightleds.com They have not only strings and whatnot...but also fixtures....and the prices are good.



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Old 06-23-2011, 04:12 AM   #4
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RE: Florescent lights in Engine Room

" I use 12 volt lightbulbs from an RV store. They look just like a ordinary light bulb but they are 12 volt."

These may have a short life as they are usually used when the engine is off , perhaps only a converter on.

They are 12V bulbs and nice and bright on resting batts.OK for a quick look, but not for being on underway for a TV camera.

The auto bulbs are 14V bulbs and last far longer when an alternator is on.

There are adapters to screw into the old screw bulb base , that accept auto style bulbs.

Florescents may be very RF noisy.
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Old 06-23-2011, 08:35 AM   #5
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RE: Florescent lights in Engine Room

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I have been removing all of the old FL's and 12V bulbs from our fixtures. Instead I have installed LED's that come in waterproof strings....less power consumptions and far better lighting.... Got them from http://www.superbrightleds.com They have not only strings and whatnot...but also fixtures....and the prices are good.



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*LED are OK but they seem to bother my eyes after a while.

I don't use them in the cabin. Just for navigation and anchor lights.

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Old 06-23-2011, 08:53 AM   #6
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RE: Florescent lights in Engine Room

The Eagle came with one 4 ft florescent over the 671.* I changed it to two 4 ft, one each side and two 2 ft on each side of the gen set. Each fixture as a off on switch, but I usually leave the one by the entrance on as it usually enough light to see what I am looking for.* There are also 12 volts lights, but with two gen sets and inverter we have always had AC power.* Its been 12+ years with several inspections, with no comment/write up*but the Eagle is diesel.* I would not sure if florescent would be use if gas.* The Eagle does have a fire extinguish, which I just had check/service last week.*
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Old 06-23-2011, 04:48 PM   #7
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RE: Florescent lights in Engine Room

Thanks. I couldn't think of a reason why a residential fixture wouldn't work in this case. I looked at LED's and they are nice but since this is the 120 volt lighting system (as opposed to the 12 which I also have) they aren't cheap and I couldn't figure out if they would be bright enough. Because the fixture I went to buy had no bulbs, I ended up being a wuss and buying a replacement bulb. Depending on how aggravated I get replacing it tomorrow will decide if another trip to Lowes is needed.

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RE: Florescent lights in Engine Room

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I installed off the shelf flourescent fixtures in my engine room, Great.
******** I did the same thing with 12V flourescent rounds. Love them!
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RE: Florescent lights in Engine Room

My boat has off the shelf units installed. (230 Volt / 50 Hz in these parts of the world). As I do not have a house*inverter (yet), the ER will be pitch black if the generator or dock supply were to fail.

If*I were to install new lighting today, I would do as JAT and go for LED.

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RE: Florescent lights in Engine Room

I used fluorescent work-lights from Northern Tool; $20 each, individual switch,*socket outlet and ready-wired. Plastic body with polycarbonate sleeve to protect the bulb. The reflector can be positioned to suit. See top right and above genset.
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RE: Florescent lights in Engine Room

I am very grateful for this thread and comments as our KK42 is still configured with incandescent dome lights that collectively draw about 5 amps when on. I am looking forward to replacing them. Thanks for the comments.
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Old 06-25-2011, 06:11 PM   #13
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RE: Florescent lights in Engine Room

So I figured out how to get the bulb out - a major accomplishment! I picked up a 24 inch bulb at Lowes but - who knew - the bulbs and fixtures from my Chinese built hull are 23 1/2 inches, not 24!!! I looked at modifying the fixture but it would require complete removal and then using my drill press. I decided this was getting ridiculous so I'm picking up a new fixture from Lowes for $19.95 and another bulb and replacing the whole damn thing.

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RE: Florescent lights in Engine Room

I'm with you Magicbus!! *
Those 12 volt lights are to dim, I was always dragging a trouble light around with me, just to check oil, water levels and when checking for fluid leaks.* Finally I bought a Lowe's under cupboard florescent light and it worked great.* I started out with one in the engine room and quickly added five more.
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RE: Florescent lights in Engine Room

Sorry for the hijack, but here's something I also find helpful for those oil and bilge checks. A cap light gives you light where you look and keeps your hands free.



Love the idea of florescents in the ER. I have 12V florescents in the salon and prefer them for task lighting. Never have given me any trouble. Seems like a great improvement for the ER.
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RE: Florescent lights in Engine Room

Amazing grace had been outfitted with 4 florescent fixtures (2 bulbs in each) by a PO. The fixtures were "open", no cover. As only one bulb in each fixture would work, I removed all 4 and replaced with LED fixtures from Lowes (about $50 ea.); tied into the wiring for the old fixtures. I opted to retain the 120V connection as I can run the LEDs thru the inverter. The ER is now bright enough to be a hospital ER.
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