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Old 12-09-2014, 08:32 PM   #81
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I'm as much an Anglophile-American as anybody can be, we even used a stylized version of the Royal Navy insignia as a logo for the boat and on the transom, and because my wife and I both work in the courts we have a plaque from the HMS Arbiter on the boat -- but all that aside, I'd still find it kind of odd to fly another nation's flag from my boat in US waters -- unless we're doing something fun or goofy at the marina, like flying it for kicks on the Queen's birthday (real or celebrated). I have an Alaska flag to fly on Alaska or Seward's Day, only because I'm a former Alaskan, but that kind of celebratory or commemorative gesture is not the kind of thing I'd do underway.

So if Scotland had voted for independence and they had had to revise the Union Jack to take out the saltire, what version would you fly on your boat then as a former colonist?
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Old 12-09-2014, 08:34 PM   #82
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I fly the "Lion Rampant"..... always have. Typical Scot stuborness. We (I) never admit to having been an English colony. Long live Sean Connery
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Ah, so a preference for revisionist history is revealed. Yes, long live Sean Connery
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Old 12-09-2014, 08:49 PM   #84
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Ah, so a preference for revisionist history is revealed. Yes, long live Sean Connery
Typical response from someone who has either never read or understood the Act of Union of 1707.
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Old 12-09-2014, 09:14 PM   #85
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Old 12-09-2014, 09:19 PM   #86
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All in good fun ... they never burnt down our White House but they did turn our crofts into rubble.

The sun never sets on the British Empire ........... cause ' God doesn't trust the English buggers in the dark.
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Warning, thread drift, I am currently reading Churchill: A Life. I think Winston might have shared your views boatpoker on trusting some of his countrymen.
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I fly the "Lion Rampant"..... always have.
I think the design of the current Canadian flag sucks. Yes, I know all about the wind tunnel tests to make sure the design would be recognizable even flapping violently in the wind. But it's one of the world's most unimaginitive designs.

So... when we go into BC to cruise the Gulf Islands or whatever, we fly two courtesy flags. We fly the Maple Leaf flag because, lousy design sense or not, it IS Canada's flag so we need to respect that. But underneath it on the same flag halyard we fly the Red Ensign, the original Canadian flag.

And it's surprising when we're in a BC harbor like Nanaimo or Comox how many dock walkers notice the Red Ensign and make some comment like, "Now THAT's the proper flag."

As for the US flag---I saw this on a TV documentary awhile back--- all the elements of our flag are in the Washington family's coat of arms back in England. So when George realized they needed a flag to wave around so people would know which side they were on, and to have for the painters of the day to included in all their paintings of the war, I can imagine the scene.

George: Hey, we need a flag. Do something with red and white stripes and then put some white stars on a blue background. Here, use this as a guide. He hands the flag-maker person a copy of his family's coat of arms.

Flag-maker person: So do you want the red and white stripes vertical like on here?

George: No, that looks dorky. I never liked that, and I told my dad that when he had the thing designed. Besides, then our flag will look like the Union Pacific Railroad logo.

Flag-maker person: "What's a railroad?"

George: I don't know. Something some nut-case engineer back home keeps yammering on about. Anyway, put the red and white stripes sideways.

Flag-maker person: How many sripes do you want?

George: Christ, I don't know. Turns to one of his officers. Where'd we get all our soldiers?

Officer: From the colonies, sir.

George: Colonies? I thought this was all just one colony.

Officer: Well, the British think so, sir.

George: So how many colonies are there?

Officer: Thirteen, sir.

George: Thirteen? Geez, who came up with that number? He turns to the flag maker person. Well, there you go. Thirteen stripes. Seven red, six white or six white, seven red. I don't care, you're the creative one here.

Flag-maker person: What about the stars? How many do you want of them?

George: Well, let's keep it simple. Thirteen stars, too.

Flag maker person: Any particular arrangement?

George (exasperated): Look, I'm not going to do your job for you. Just use your best judgement.


And there you have it. The US flag. Based on a British coat of arms.
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Well done Marin. Good entertainment.
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