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Old 10-22-2014, 09:55 AM   #21
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We always fly "something" on the bow. As we are not loopers and don't belong to a yacht club, this may be "happy hour" or something similar, whatever the boss lady has decided on (I don't think we have a pirates flag but not sure). All I want is something to show me wind direction and approximate strength when coming in to a dock, anchorage or even when waiting on a bridge/lock.
On windless days, I rarely mount the bow flag (builder's flag displaying a Seahorse).
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Old 10-22-2014, 10:47 AM   #22
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The CPS positions are not always correct.

The yacht club burgee should never be flown from the bow staff. That is a position of lesser importance, and should host the owners flag, provincial flag, builders group flag, but never the YC burgee. Even though clearly stated in my own YC yearbook, there are many (mostly smaller power vessels) in our YC that violate this rule.

The YC burgee should fly from the mainmast truck, on a head stick (1st), or on a power vessel, from a staff mounted above the pilot house.
On a sailing vessel, if not fitted with a head stick, the YC Burgee may be flown from the upper(if more than one set) Starboard spreader.
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Old 10-22-2014, 11:24 AM   #23
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We fly our YC burgee at the bow, yacht ensign at the stern, San Diego Cruiser Association burgee from the radar arch, Blue Gavel burgee from the port side of the sundeck overhead and my Vice Commodore burgee from the starboard side.
P.S. Only on special occasions like Opening Day.
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Old 10-22-2014, 12:13 PM   #24
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We always fly "something" on the bow. ....All I want is something to show me wind direction and approximate strength when coming in to a dock, anchorage or even when waiting on a bridge/lock.
That's the main reason we fly our yacht club burgee on the bow. Before we joined the club we flew a generic blue pennant with a white star on it that we found somewhere.

We have an "owner's" flag that my wife made but it's a good-size rectangle and is far too large to fly from the bow. The club burgee is the perfect size.
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Old 10-22-2014, 12:26 PM   #25
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Its not right , but our bow flag is a US Navy commissioning pennant.

Its what Naval ships use for dressing up.

The stars on a blue field , no stripes.And normally carried at the bow

Since it was a US navy boat , carried on a ship, I figure its close enough.

The bow staff is a GRP antenna top , sized so if it fits under a bridge , the boat will.
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Old 10-22-2014, 12:38 PM   #26
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I fly the U.S. flag at the stern, yacht club burgee on the bow and at the top of my sunroom, I fly my Alaska State flag at times.
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Old 10-22-2014, 01:08 PM   #27
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FF: The flag you are describing is the former U.S. Navy "jack flag". The present one adopted post 9/11 is the "Don't tread on me" snake. Typically flown on the bow. Most former British Colonies incorporate a quadrant type style with the upper left portion of the flag referred to as the "jack", ours of course has the stars on a blue background.
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Old 10-23-2014, 06:07 AM   #28
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"Don't tread on me"

The Gadsden flag

Is on a decal P&S just after the name on the bow.
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Old 10-23-2014, 06:53 AM   #29
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Hmm.... I've never been one to put much stock in flag etiquette these days. I guess there was a time when it was pretty important, particulary in military situations. But today, particularly with a recreational boat, I don't think it makes any difference what one does. I know the USCG doesn't care. We will occasionally fly the French flag in place of the US flag on our boat just for fun, and the USCG has passed us on patrol and not given our boat a second look.

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So my answer to the original poster is to fly whatever you want wherever you want. If you're into preserving the old rules, follow whatever guidelines are in Chapman's or a similar publication. But if you really llke the look of flying the US flag from the bow, go ahead and do it. You'll get a whole bunch of people telling you it's wrong, but you'll not get anyone actually doing anything about it, assuming you're not running a commercial operation.
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Old 10-23-2014, 09:47 AM   #30
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FF: I am sorry, I should have been more specific in my last post. Yes, the Gadsden flag had the original "Don't tread on me" with snake coiled on a yellow background. A great bit of history to that flag. The new (post 9/11) naval jack flag incorporates the snake and motto but on a striped field rather than the yellow background.
The original post asked for assistance in "flag etiquette" which still exists. There are also some rules and laws associated with flags especially when entering foreign ports and internationally. I think most of that has been covered fairly well.
Etiquette like manners can or cannot be used. True, no one will usually challenge you if you fail to comply with those adopted standards on your private vessel, likewise no one will probably challenge you if you wear a party hat to a funeral or use the wrong spoon at a diner party. Good manners and etiquette are more a sign of character In my opinion.
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Old 10-23-2014, 10:04 AM   #31
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flags étiquettes

Hi every one
My only question was
Is there any rules for flag
i did not want to start a war....

i think we should have a look on our instrument (GPS,RADAR,ETC) instead of other boat

Thank you again
It's my first time on a forum but be sure it's the LAST one

You can come in QUEBEC any time with any FLAGS

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Didn't sound like a war to me, just opinions on where to fly your flag.
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Old 10-23-2014, 10:10 AM   #33
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You didn't start a war, you started a discussion. Perhaps you should have just Googled it if you didn't want a "discussion"?
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Old 10-23-2014, 11:44 AM   #34
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"Don't tread on me"

The Gadsden flag

Is on a decal P&S just after the name on the bow.
No such decals here.

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Old 10-23-2014, 12:55 PM   #35
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Salutation,
M. guslap. "...It's my first time on a forum but be sure it's the LAST one..."
This is the way most forums work. We shall be sad to see you go. If you reconsider, please post again.
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As a newbie what is the Q flag?
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It's my first time on a forum but be sure it's the LAST one

I hope not! Lots of info here and I agree with others this is a discussion...
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Old 10-23-2014, 03:30 PM   #38
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cbq63: The "Q" flag is flag within the International Maritime Signal Flag representing the letter "Q" it is often known as the Quarantine Flag. Those Maritime Signal Flags not only represent letters of the alapha but also many are given there own short maritime meaning and are used to relay that meaning and/or letter. "B" (red flag) = hazardous cargo....H = Pilot on Board,....etc.... The "Q" actually is supposed to mean that my crew and passengers are healthy and I request permission to enter your port. HMMMM...perhaps airplanes should adopt something along these lines....
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Additional info on the Maritime Signal Flags. You usually see the flags on coffee cups or tumblers in your local boat store.
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In modern usage a "Q" flag if flow on the starboard spreader to indicate a foreign vessel has come into a country but has not yet cleared customs and immigration. The Q flag should be show immediately after anchoring or mooring and should only be lowered once the boat has "cleared in". At that time the host nation's courtesy flag is flown and indicates the boat has cleared in.
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