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08-31-2019, 11:06 PM
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City: Between Oregon and Alaska
Vessel Name: Charlie Harper
Vessel Model: Wheeler Shipyard 83'
Join Date: Jun 2016
Posts: 3,023
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Cheap Cruiser
I saw this on Craigslist:
https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/b...968037300.html
Sister to my hull, same engines, looks mostly original USCG.
$9500
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08-31-2019, 11:34 PM
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City: Qualicum Beach, Vancouver Island
Vessel Name: Capricorn
Vessel Model: Mariner 30 - Sedan Cruiser 1969
Join Date: Feb 2019
Posts: 2,019
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A good project boat if you have a million or two laying around.
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09-01-2019, 12:32 AM
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City: Phoenix, AZ
Vessel Name: Enigma
Vessel Model: 1997 Wellcraft Excel 26 SE
Join Date: Mar 2015
Posts: 661
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^^^^ Would seem to me that yacht like that could be a life consuming thing.
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09-01-2019, 05:15 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 22,553
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"Would seem to me that yacht like that could be a life consuming thing."
Plan B might be to only patch it , run it for a decade+ , then take it to the scrappers.
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09-01-2019, 06:54 AM
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Guru
City: Ft Pierce
Vessel Name: Sold
Vessel Model: Was an Albin/PSN 40
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 28,166
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or make it a non-profit, restored to original as possible, operation....cruise it and wherever you go give tours and ask for donations.
not saying it would work...but people make some pretty good coin on go fund me pages....plus donations and tour collections ...might interest someone.
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09-01-2019, 07:05 AM
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Guru
City: Concrete Washington State
Vessel Name: Willy
Vessel Model: Willard Nomad 30'
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 18,743
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Lepke,
Are you saying there’s something desirable about this boat?
What is it?
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Eric
North Western Washington State USA
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09-01-2019, 07:58 AM
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Guru
City: Southern Maine
Vessel Model: Prairie 36 Coastal Cruiser
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 2,717
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Reminds me of the former CG boat (wood) which lay alongside a local pier for years. The owner always dreamed of fixing it up, but he didn't live long enough. Not sure whatever happened to it, but even as a kid I knew that was too big a project for any one human.
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09-01-2019, 11:38 AM
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Guru
City: SchoolHouse Branch
Join Date: Jul 2018
Posts: 551
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This boat needs a curator. If it's been treated right, it's doable. Shrimpers here on the Gulf Coast keep big wooden boats going. It would take a real wooden boat yard. Pretenders would break the bank. Keep it away from the make believe, everything is gold-plated, Disney version of a boat yard.
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09-01-2019, 01:14 PM
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Guru
City: Southport, FL near Panama City
Vessel Name: FROLIC
Vessel Model: Mainship 30 Pilot II since 2015. GB-42 1986-2015. Former Unlimited Tonnage Master
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 4,984
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Hey, I'd buy it for the Ma Deuce on the aft deck. It could be legally sold off for mega bucks if it is pre-1986 made gun.
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Rich Gano
FROLIC (2005 MainShip 30 Pilot II)
Panama City area
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09-01-2019, 01:24 PM
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Guru
City: Concrete Washington State
Vessel Name: Willy
Vessel Model: Willard Nomad 30'
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 18,743
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Yes “Boat”,
There’s a yard in Port Townsend Wa that would be up to the job. They are doing 1937 west coast seine boat now.
Lepke,
Has this boat been stretched? I think I’ve seen boat w this hull and my negative response was probably due to the pic and above deck structures. There is a boat just north of downtown Ketchikan on Tongas Narrows ... anold CG cutter but?
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North Western Washington State USA
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09-01-2019, 02:01 PM
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Guru
City: Between Oregon and Alaska
Vessel Name: Charlie Harper
Vessel Model: Wheeler Shipyard 83'
Join Date: Jun 2016
Posts: 3,023
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nomad Willy
Lepke,
Are you saying there’s something desirable about this boat?
What is it?
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There are a lot of dreamers out there with limited funds. The boat is basically operational. Someone or some family could get a lot of enjoyment out of that boat for less than the cost of a car. My boat was used as a cruiser/liveaboard by a family in the 1950s and early 1960s. I met someone that grew up on my boat, their family only slightly modified the original Coast Guard layout. The boat was docked in a commercial fishing harbor (cheaper dockage) and cruised the PNW. In the end, the boat will sink or get scrapped. But isn't that the fate of all boats? At the price, I'm tempted to buy it for spare running gear. If I was younger I would.
More pictures on CG83527.org
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09-01-2019, 02:28 PM
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Guru
City: Between Oregon and Alaska
Vessel Name: Charlie Harper
Vessel Model: Wheeler Shipyard 83'
Join Date: Jun 2016
Posts: 3,023
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nomad Willy
Lepke,
Has this boat been stretched? I think I’ve seen boat w this hull and my negative response was probably due to the pic and above deck structures. There is a boat just north of downtown Ketchikan on Tongas Narrows ... anold CG cutter but?
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The boat I posted is the original length. It's difficult to stretch a planked boat. When I was a shipwright (and we had big trees and good lumber) planks ran in one continuous piece from the stem to the stern. As did the stringers and the keel. Lengthening a planked boat takes a lot of support structure to do it right and a complete replanking.
There was another hull I know of in Alaska operating as a party boat. Many were converted into yachts. The Coast Guard built 230 and many served in the CG until about 1962. Some went to foreign CGs. The first 135 boats had a bronze wheelhouse, later ones had plywood. Money was to be made in government surplus.
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09-02-2019, 05:36 AM
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Guru
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 22,553
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Although the CG owned the boat , that does not mean the construction or systems will meet their Subchapter T requirements.
There is little to be made with just a 6 pack boat.
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09-02-2019, 09:44 AM
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Guru
City: Concrete Washington State
Vessel Name: Willy
Vessel Model: Willard Nomad 30'
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 18,743
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Lepke,
Thanks much for the link.
Now I see what you see in it. Just looked like a big long skinny white whale w no-class plywood deck stuff.
But like you implied they are the stuff of possible dreams starting and sorta ending w the hull. But many of the old boats did have real class.
A mini-dream of mine would be a 22’ - 24’ version most likely an OB.
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North Western Washington State USA
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09-02-2019, 11:15 AM
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Guru
City: Meydenbauer Bay Yacht Club
Vessel Name: Lulu (Refugio sold)
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 1,284
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lepke
Someone or some family could get a lot of enjoyment out of that boat for less than the cost of a car.
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I think those days are gone. Moorage is very expensive in many/most areas, requires insurance, may require regular surveys. And then there’s the environmental liability - fuel/oil leaks in particular.
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09-02-2019, 11:29 AM
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Guru
City: Concrete Washington State
Vessel Name: Willy
Vessel Model: Willard Nomad 30'
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 18,743
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fugio,
I think it’s a dream like thing.
Not meant for reality or doing.
My thoughts of a 22’ CGC slicing through the water spitting the waves aside and moving easily on her lines is well above poetry has already been a joy to me. But I dream easily.
Boats are meant for joy. And dwelling on facts can do much unwanted damage.
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Eric
North Western Washington State USA
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09-02-2019, 12:52 PM
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Guru
City: Between Oregon and Alaska
Vessel Name: Charlie Harper
Vessel Model: Wheeler Shipyard 83'
Join Date: Jun 2016
Posts: 3,023
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These boats in good condition do pass CG inspection and original build meets requirements (collision bulkheads, etc.). My boat was licensed for 50 day and 14 overnight passengers until I bought it. Although I don't think anybody got rich running tours. I had no interest in babysitting a bunch of strangers.
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09-02-2019, 10:40 PM
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Guru
City: Meydenbauer Bay Yacht Club
Vessel Name: Lulu (Refugio sold)
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 1,284
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nomad Willy
fugio,
I think it’s a dream like thing.
Not meant for reality or doing.
My thoughts of a 22’ CGC slicing through the water spitting the waves aside and moving easily on her lines is well above poetry has already been a joy to me. But I dream easily.
Boats are meant for joy. And dwelling on facts can do much unwanted damage.
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Sounds like a CD22 to me
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09-03-2019, 04:54 PM
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Senior Member
City: PNW/Seattle-ish
Vessel Name: M/V Peter Iredale ;)
Vessel Model: rusting hulk
Join Date: Feb 2018
Posts: 128
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Oh, that is a beautifully drawn boat.
The hull is lovely, and the deck house is an artistic art-deco masterpiece. Whatever architect snuck that passed the War Production Board, Navy Bureau of Ships, or whoever approved the design most of chuckled a little bit. There weren’t really that many photos on the website but I did find their old marketing PowerPoint/slideshow. The hull looks like it would be a stable and efficient From what I could see.
Don’t have the pockets for it myself, but that is a seriously attractive project/boat for someone.
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09-04-2019, 05:02 AM
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#20
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Guru
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 22,553
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In some areas a very small slip can be rented so a tender can service the boat and should include mail, water access, pump out access and dumpster and parking rights.
On its own anchors a huge boat can be kept for minor bucks.
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