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Old 08-09-2016, 02:35 PM   #1
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Firearms on the Great Loop Route laws and regs?

First off I carry, always will, personal preference.
Have traveled from Fla. to Bahamas several times w/no issues and abide by the rules!
Thinking about going to the Great Lakes next year and am looking for any info
On regs along the way.
Have read many threads and they all seem to get hijacked by personal opinions about guns on board, with no real info provided.
I have my opinion, you have yours. Let's keep this post restricted to information and not a debate on how best to protect yourself and the family.

Thanks in advance
Looking forward to any info that will keep me from running afoul of the local laws.
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Isn't a firearm on a boat

Considered the same as in your home, open or concealed carry?

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First off I carry, always will, personal preference.
Have traveled from Fla. to Bahamas several times w/no issues and abide by the rules!
Thinking about going to the Great Lakes next year and am looking for any info
On regs along the way.
Have read many threads and they all seem to get hijacked by personal opinions about guns on board, with no real info provided.
I have my opinion, you have yours. Let's keep this post restricted to information and not a debate on how best to protect yourself and the family.

Thanks in advance
Looking forward to any info that will keep me from running afoul of the local laws.
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Old 08-09-2016, 02:53 PM   #3
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Considered the same as in your home, open or concealed carry?
Concealed carry w/permit
On the boat it stays locked in a gun safe most of the time.
Always locked up in the Bahamas and declared on check in.
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Old 08-09-2016, 03:03 PM   #4
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Here's some reading for you;

Restricted Firearms - Royal Canadian Mounted Police

basically, if you are talking handguns, forget it

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Old 08-09-2016, 04:06 PM   #5
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Here's a good start. This site is usually up to date. www.usacarry.com

I can not stress enough to you, be careful in NJ, DC and NYC. If your planning to take your firearms into this state or cities other than locked and separated from locked ammo while passing directly thru you are setting yourself up for some serious legal problems.

I would NOT state my intentions to violate their unconstitutional laws on a public form.
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Here's a good start. This site is usually up to date. www.usacarry.com

I can not stress enough to you, be careful in NJ, DC and NYC. If your planning to take your firearms into this state or cities other than locked and separated from locked ammo while passing directly thru you are setting yourself up for some serious legal problems.

I would NOT state my intentions to violate their unconstitutional laws on a public form.
He was quite clear that he always follows local laws.

The website linked above may provide you will good information. You can also check out Handgunlaw.us.

As John pointed out, in states like NY, your best bet would be to have both weapon and ammunition locked up separately.

30 years ago I drove all through the Northeast with a loaded handgun in the car. I was ignorant of the laws and very fortunate that I never ran into any trouble. I just forgot that I had my uncles 38 in the truck before we left on our road trip.
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I was not trying to sound accusing, just trying to stress a point. Especially NJ, a state that unfortunately borders my gun friendly home state of PA.

I would also like to point out to the OP that NJ has very strict laws governing possession/transporting hollow point ammo.

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Trawlerfest Bay Bridge has a seminar on guns and cruising the east coast titled Guns & Governments: Firearms Laws on the East Coast and Down Island. Might be a good start. Details are about 40% down this page:

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There are several states where abiding by there laws will not allow you to get off the boat concealed carry. So, if it's for only on the boat, a 12 gauge pump with short barrel and pistol grip instead of stock seemed to me a much lower hassle factor.

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12 gauge pump with short barrel and pistol grip
Always a great choice. I'm partial to the 870 Marine Magnum, but with wood furniture instead of plastic.

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Someone suggested painting the synthetic stock on my Mossberg Mariner orange and stenciling FLARE GUN on it. Legal in all states and Canada....maybe.

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Someone suggested painting the synthetic stock on my Mossberg Mariner orange and stenciling FLARE GUN on it. Legal in all states and Canada....maybe.

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Yes I can see it now, as you stand before a judge and say, "well your honor, someone told it was legal".

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There are several states where abiding by there laws will not allow you to get off the boat concealed carry. So, if it's for only on the boat, a 12 gauge pump with short barrel and pistol grip instead of stock seemed to me a much lower hassle factor.

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Better check NY Safe Act on the pistol grip.

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Always a great choice. I'm partial to the 870 Marine Magnum, but with wood furniture instead of plastic.




+1 on the 870 Marine Magnum.
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This topic has been canvassed before and is well covered in the archives section.

From memory I think the original poster took his weapon on board with him , tripped over the boat hook and shot his toy poodle.There was a touching tribute in the 'pets on board' thread............................................ ...
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Better check NY Safe Act on the pistol grip.

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A cursory examination of the NY Safe Act bans pistol grips from semi-automatic rifles. A pump shot gun is neither a semi-automatic nor a rifle.

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After further review: a semi-automatic shot gun with a pistol grip for the non trigger hand is also banned.

I was referring to a pistol grip for the trigger hand (not banned) and a pump shotgun (not covered under NY Safe Act).

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This topic has been canvassed before and is well covered in the archives section.

From memory I think the original poster took his weapon on board with him , tripped over the boat hook and shot his toy poodle.There was a touching tribute in the 'pets on board' thread............................................ ...
Are you sure he didn't shoot the toy poodle in a misguided attempt to regain his manhood?
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All opinions aside...

When you choose to travel to another state or country than where you reside, you must abide by their laws, or face the consequences if you are caught. You know, understand, and comply with that it appears.

My opinion is to make it easy on yourself. If you intend to enter Canada, do not bring a handgun. Unlike when crossing a state border, when crossing a country's border they have the right to search your boat.

Within the USA states, and even Canada the easiest and legal solution would be as mentioned before to carry a shotgun. I've taken a shotgun into Canada, its not a issue as long as you are honest and thell them at the border.

Within the US states, it is my opinion that you would not run into trouble carrying whatever you want while on your boat. I know I'll catch some flack over that statement, but I'd be willing to take the risk of say carrying a handgun or semi auto rifle as long as it stayed on the boat. I'm not a lawyer, and I have not studied the case law on this subject. I'm just looking at it from a practical standpoint.

Getting off the boat with your weapon is a whole other story. Your chances of being patted down and your weapon being found increase exponentially, and you would probably be charged under the laws of the state you are in.
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I would also like to point out to the OP that NJ has very strict laws governing possession/transporting hollow point ammo.

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A sporting shotgun is indeed the easiest item from a legal standpoint, and actually has some practical value; during season you can shoot dinner. Though I have to admit I left mine in storage when we were cruising and living aboard, but did look into all the legal issues for the eastern states and adjacent countries. That was 9 years ago so don't know if anything has changed since then.
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