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Old 12-31-2011, 12:39 PM   #1
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Fire Destroys two boats in Edmonds, WA

Two 50' boats were destroyed.* One sank.* Not a good way to start the new year.

http://edmonds.patch.com/articles/fi...edmonds-marina


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If you learn the cause please post it here. It might be something the rest of us could benefit from knowing so we can prevent it on our own boats.
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If you learn the cause please post it here. It might be something the rest of us could benefit from knowing so we can prevent it on our own boats.
Will do.* Electrical would be my guess, it was a bit colder last night and there was a fair amount of wind yesterday.** I know it's rough outside when I see the Victorica Clipper coming down Saratoga Passage.

I've been making a habit of running the electric heat full blast in the boat while I'm up there and then checking for warm ends on the shore-power cord before I turn it back down to the freeze setting before leaving.
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Fire Destroys two boats in Edmonds, WA

bobc,

That seems a good way to test your wiring. Do you test your car at 140 mph before driving it 70? Hmmmmmm * Looks like you live in Everett. You do'nt live in Everett and moore in Edmonds do you? That's where we bought Willy .....was at Edmonds Marina. The first time I saw her was like this photo.

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RE: Fire Destroys two boats in Edmonds, WA

Jay N keeps his Pac Trawler at Edmonds, I wonder if he will comment on what he hears
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That seems a good way to test your wiring. Do you test your car at 140 mph before driving it 70? Hmmmmmm * Looks like you live in Everett. You do'nt live in Everett and moore in Edmonds do you? That's where we bought Willy .....was at Edmonds Marina. The first time I saw her was like this photo.

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Eric, I've never kept a boat in Edmonds.* I'm in La Conner right now.* Edmonds is a nice place to spend a night or two.
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Will do.* Electrical would be my guess, it was a bit colder last night and there was a fair amount of wind yesterday.** I know it's rough outside when I see the Victorica Clipper coming down Saratoga Passage.

I've been making a habit of running the electric heat full blast in the boat while I'm up there and then checking for warm ends on the shore-power cord before I turn it back down to the freeze setting before leaving.

*I find I use my IR gun to check for incipient shorts as much as I use if for anything else. *We're in Port Townsend right now and one of the lights in the master was acting funky. *The IR gun showed the switch on the lamp getting hot, which was replaced. *The gun made it easy to spot the problem....
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RE: Fire Destroys two boats in Edmonds, WA

Latest rumor from Port of Edmonds was an electrical event on one of the boats.* The less damaged boat was taken to the work yard, where it had a brief flare up about 1830 this evening.

The*remains of the 47' Bayliner are now blocked up at the travelift pressure washing location, investigators will have a look at it tomorrow.* There's not much left of her.*

Two boats at the end of the dock had people onboard that were taken off by rescue boat, some smoke inhaled, but they're reportedly ok tonight.

What apparently kept this fire relatively small is the fact that several berths outboard of these two vessels were empty.

Nothing uglier than a boat on fire, unless it's several boats on fire at a marina.
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RE: Fire Destroys two boats in Edmonds, WA

It would not suprise me if this turns out to be heater related.

The Bayliner 47 has several factory electric heaters.

Like many boats, the electrical system is running at full capacity with the heaters on. Get that much current, and any high resistance connections can heat up in a hurry.

The IR gun idea that was posted was a good one. You cannot check every connection, but periodic spot checks can save allot of grief down the road.
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It would not suprise me if this turns out to be heater related.

The Bayliner 47 has several factory electric heaters.

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Do you know if they are Thermador electric forced air heaters in the Bayliners?* I have three which were installed from the factory,*

Had one bad experience where the circulation fan motor failed*and over heated the unit.* Fortunately we were sitting right there and noticed the burning smell and disabled it before something lit up.* Now I take the face plates off them every year, clean and inspect them.* Like a home unit, they accumulate dust and fuzz and as we all know, lint is a great fire starter.*

My ex-wife and her husband lost their 28'*travel trailer last week same thing.* It was in winter storage, about 30' from*their house near Poulsbo,*and had a small heater on the floor inside to keep the*moisture out.* Burned*the trailer to the ground and damaged the siding and blew a window out of their house.

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I don't know the brand but they are forced air units.

They should have a high temp cutoff but I haven't checked ours to make sure.
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RE: Fire Destroys two boats in Edmonds, WA

I always turn off the battery charger and other stuff when running electric heaters onboard. I charge the batteries in thawing weather. That's one of my concerns moving back to Washington is being in a big marina and my boat's safety being subject to so many other boat owners. bobc, I plan on "B" float in the so hbr at LaConner at this time.

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Turns out both boats were Bayliner 47's, one was newer than the other.

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I don't know the brand but they are forced air units. They should have a high temp cutoff but I haven't checked ours to make sure.
Mine do have a high temp shutoff, but it is*momentary thermal switch and resets itself after a minute or so.* I had an electrian look at*them and he*install a fusable link in each as well.* Manufactures recommendation was to clean every six months.* I hadn't internally cleaned ours for ten years, could have been a big mistake!!

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That seems a good way to test your wiring. Do you test your car at 140 mph before driving it 70? Hmmmmmm * Looks like you live in Everett. You do'nt live in Everett and moore in Edmonds do you? That's where we bought Willy .....was at Edmonds Marina. The first time I saw her was like this photo.

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*Eric, when and why?
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Yeah! Eric if you do that, that leaves what? Me and Superdiver as the only representatives of Alaska in the Trawler forum Fleet.

Oh well. You will always be South East Eric to me.

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Soon and over the next 9 months. We're making the first run south starting friday the 13th just to make it interesting. This move is going to be expensive because of the high prices on the ferry and gasoline through BC. Anybody know what gas costs in Smithers? But it will be a bit fun too. We're going to the boat show and the flower and garden show on this first trip. Plan on being down for the better part of a month. We're taking the newer Buick, the Suburban and 14' utility trailer down w enough stuff (bed, tables and chairs ect) to live there normally when we're south. Who knows when the Alaska house (castle) will sell. Most of our stuff will come via container w barge and tug (Northland Marine Services) to West Marginal Way in Seattle. Then we'll need to hire tractor-trailers to get the container(s) to our house in Concrete Wa. The boat (Willy) will need to come down sometime before next winter but will probably go late spring or mid summer.*

Why??? * *We love Alaska but my cousin Ann said it best when she found we'd moved to Alaska * ..."But what do you dooooooo?". Think of all the things you did last week and consider how many would not be done in Alaska. 95% of what people do here is hunt and fish and I do neither. And I'm sure I'll do more boating in Puget Sound. Shopping, friends and traveling by road ... like I like it. I guess it was a little like pinching one's self and saying "are we having fun" ... the answer was more no than yes. Among many other things I'll now get a chance to meet some of my Trawler Forum friends.*

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Eric I feel your "what to do, what to take, what to get rid of etc" issues. We ( like many more here probably ) have moved so much over the last 35yrs chasing work, leaving behind memories on each destination. Living in one place wanting to be in another until roots are formed. Each move seems to be more expensive than the last. Then there's the "I should have" feelings associated with moves.. ( should have stayed, should have left earlier ) that we never seem to get away from but such is how life goes. The problem we found with going back to places we've lived before is how things ( people mostly ) have changed and it was like starting all over again.

Our last plan is a 7yr plan to relocate permanently ( retire )*with*only 5 more yrs to go so I am trying to make sure I have all my things covered ( visited for a month here and there ) but who knows, once we get settled, just might want to be somewhere else. Our knawing issue is; all our Kids & Grandkids are living in Western Canada while we want to settle in the East. Not much water in Alberta to float a yacht hahaha

Good luck with your plan and I wish you health & patience in the relocation decisions not to mention a safe & satisfying result.*

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