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Old 05-30-2016, 08:17 PM   #21
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been there, done that got the tee shirt! our boats PO explained to me that since the boat had always been wintered in the water it was not necessary to winterize th fresh water system. After further investigation I wonder why there were 10 hose clamp splices?????????
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Old 05-30-2016, 10:08 PM   #22
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Raindr, our LeComte had splices on splices. Lots of its 1 CM dia. copper water piping lay in the bilge with occasional salt water immersion. It was pretty evident to me that corrosion was a real issue for the copper. And, what a pain to make transitions/adapters between the 1 CM stuff - to 3/8" copper - to 1/2" copper - to 1/2" CPVC!
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Old 05-31-2016, 07:39 PM   #23
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Still not as much fun as another new owner has had, but the water system blew again. Hot water side. We will be replacing all the clear vinyl hose and replacing it with reinforced hose.
I never imagined that you would have sailed anywhere with non reiforced marine grade hoses of the proper size and clamped double or triple clamped with marine stainless clams. What other systems on your boat are below marine standard?
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Old 05-31-2016, 08:38 PM   #24
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Still not as much fun as another new owner has had, but the water system blew again. Hot water side. We will be replacing all the clear vinyl hose and replacing it with reinforced hose.


What the hey? Not sure I would assume that splitting lines like that was possible from the water pressure developed by recreational marine water pumps... serious...

Is that like soda-straw thick tubing? Don't get that? Plus - the installer of that tubing was missing out on the cool-factor that comes with modern vinyl nylon grid reinforced tubing.

Sorry bud... but you will be crawling that boat for days replacing that material.

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Britt, Carl,

There seem to be only(!) 6 short lengths of that clear vinyl. Now, only 5. We've got the right repair stuff aboard. Most of the water system is original copper. Some is reinforced hose, but not recent.

This is a surmountable annoyance!

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Old 06-01-2016, 10:38 AM   #26
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"but the water system blew again. Hot water side."

When the HW lines after the heater blow it is usually an over pressure from either a check valve between the heater and faucets , or no expansion tank in the line.'

A simple fix.

EVEN IN BILGE WATER COPPER TUBING WILL LAST for may years.

Either remove the check valve or add an expansion tank.

Remember too stuff does not grow inside copper tubing as it can in plastic tubing.

CLEAR plastic tubing in a water system is a disaster as light can enter the water and feed green slime.
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Old 06-01-2016, 01:09 PM   #27
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Britt, Carl,

There seem to be only(!) 6 short lengths of that clear vinyl. Now, only 5. We've got the right repair stuff aboard. Most of the water system is original copper. Some is reinforced hose, but not recent.

This is a surmountable annoyance!

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Yep, and if this is the worse you ever encounter it will be great. Actually the experiance will likely make you scrutinize everything wityh a criticle eye from now on which is good as it may save your lives. The water is nothing to take lightly. I've seen people die unexpectedly on nice calm bluebirds days. Once at Pyrimid lake at the boat launch we were standing talking and a boy jumped in to cool off but didnt surface so an off duty police rescue swimmer jumped in to save him and neither were ever found. Pyrimid lake Nevada is known for things like this. There is lots of volcanic activity and in spots the lake boils there are also strange currents likely spawned by the same activity. I think anyone that spends enough time on the water will have these experiences the water is a dangerous place one which we all often take for granted.
You can't treat a boat like a car cause in a car if you break down you sit and wait for help in a boat you may not have that option or be even able to call for help depending on your location
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"but the water system blew again. Hot water side."

When the HW lines after the heater blow it is usually an over pressure from either a check valve between the heater and faucets , or no expansion tank in the line.'

A simple fix.

EVEN IN BILGE WATER COPPER TUBING WILL LAST for may years.

Either remove the check valve or add an expansion tank.

Remember too stuff does not grow inside copper tubing as it can in plastic tubing.

CLEAR plastic tubing in a water system is a disaster as light can enter the water and feed green slime.
copper is a natural herbicide and toxic to us even if approved and used for water piping in some areas. Polymers used in synthetic tubing etc. tend to off gas various chemicals most of which are carcinogenic into the water no matter what the manufacturers say. My reccomendation is to never use water for food, drink that hasn't first been filtered and run through an RO membrane. I only have one body and i choose not to gamble it on the word of a big corporation or big brother.
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Congratulations! As a proud owner of a 1984 Taiwan cruiser (marine trader), I have a few stories of my own about things that go wrong. But we are on the water, and that's what counts! My boat is a constant project, but I could never have afforded her otherwise. I wish you countless hours of zen-like moments aboard.
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"I only have one body and i choose not to gamble it on the word of a big corporation or big brother."

Even drinking rain water , standing at the bow with open mouth is dangerous.

Rain needs & contains "condensation nuclei" to form the drop from water vapor..

So you are drinking some sort of minor particle , as it falls in your mouth.
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Still not as much fun as another new owner has had, but the water system blew again. Hot water side. We will be replacing all the clear vinyl hose and replacing it with reinforced hose.
Yes, needs to be the reinforced type, I only ever used the clear on the intake side with essentially no pressure, and that was just to give me a tank level sight tube. Would I also be right in suspecting the clear plastic to copper joins were to straight copper ends with no barb bulge on the copper end..?
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Old 06-03-2016, 04:18 PM   #33
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Congratulations! As a proud owner of a 1984 Taiwan cruiser (marine trader), I have a few stories of my own about things that go wrong. But we are on the water, and that's what counts! My boat is a constant project, but I could never have afforded her otherwise. I wish you countless hours of zen-like moments aboard.
chuckle... I've never owned a boat even new custom made to my specs boats that were not constant projects. Congraulations of your new toy The reson boats are spoken of in the female tense is they are always in need of something or other and never satisfied.
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Congratulations on a nice boat and to another Bay cruiser - we like the Europa design for the covered aft deck. On the plus side I bet you have a very clean bilge. These fixes are nuisance ones and fortunately not expensive.

This week I just removed the old water filter system in my boat and installed a Dupont home version using two filters in tandem - first one for particulates and the second one with charcoal. Water looks and smells fine. Maybe I'll get the nerve up to take a sip.

Got everything plumbed and tight, turned on the pressure pump and nada. Finally after checking everything else, I checked the tank. Flushed the system last week and forgot to refill the tank after the last flush. Oops. Filled up with an inline filter and we're back in business.
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Congratulations on a nice boat and to another Bay cruiser - we like the Europa design for the covered aft deck. On the plus side I bet you have a very clean bilge. These fixes are nuisance ones and fortunately not expensive.

This week I just removed the old water filter system in my boat and installed a Dupont home version using two filters in tandem - first one for particulates and the second one with charcoal. Water looks and smells fine. Maybe I'll get the nerve up to take a sip.

Got everything plumbed and tight, turned on the pressure pump and nada. Finally after checking everything else, I checked the tank. Flushed the system last week and forgot to refill the tank after the last flush. Oops. Filled up with an inline filter and we're back in business.
is the filter to filter all water or just for drinking cooking? The reason for my question is that if using volumes of water a small charcoal block will saturate fast and no longer will be able to stop voc's and other toxic contaminates. Its easy to buy filter holders and expand even add an ro membrane for drinking and cooking.
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