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Old 03-26-2018, 05:09 PM   #1
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To fiddle or not to fiddle

Iím just wrapping up the final touches on my galley remodel planning and am going to go with 3mm quartz countertops with an under counter sink. The question on my mind is should I install fiddles right away. Since itís likely hard to do in quartz it would mean teak and Iím not sure how that will look.
Am I crazy to think about not installing them? There isnít really counter space that would cause things to slide off side to side and the galley is basically midship so limited up and down movement.

I could always do them later but want to make sure Iím not completely missing something...
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Old 03-26-2018, 05:13 PM   #2
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I would use fiddles where things could slide off due to rolling movements. Likely not an issue for the hobby-horse movement.
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Old 03-26-2018, 05:16 PM   #3
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That’s what I’m thinking too, feels like the undercounter sink is a far bigger risk.
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Iím just wrapping up the final touches on my galley remodel planning and am going to go with 3mm quartz countertops with an under counter sink. The question on my mind is should I install fiddles right away. Since itís likely hard to do in quartz it would mean teak and Iím not sure how that will look.
Am I crazy to think about not installing them? There isnít really counter space that would cause things to slide off side to side and the galley is basically midship so limited up and down movement.

I could always do them later but want to make sure Iím not completely missing something...
With stabilizers, they aren't really necessary. I've never missed them and we just use non skid under the things we don't want moving. If conditions are nasty enough that stabilizers and non skid don't cut it, fiddles aren't likely to be of much use.
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We replaced the fiddels when we redid the counters. Even at anchor they keep stuff off the floor.
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Greetings,
Mr Ac. Aside from the functionality that fiddles would/might provide, have you considered the aesthetics? How about having some thicker quartz cut to say...1/2" W and 3/4" H or some teak pieces of similar dimensions. Maybe marble or another material? Use double sided sticky tape to place them temporarily so you can stand back and cogitate. Perhaps a raised edge or lip around the counter...

Your counter supplier should have a solution for sticking what-ever onto the surface or along the edge...Just sayin'
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Old 03-26-2018, 08:08 PM   #7
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I really like the clean look of not having fiddles, I think Iím going to go with 3cm quartz square edged so I can always glue teak or Quartz to them in the future.
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Old 03-28-2018, 07:07 AM   #8
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"galley is basically midship so limited up and down movement. "

If the range or sink is athwartship , across the boat, usually facing a bulkhead , the danger of harm from items being thrown from side to side is minimal.

If the range or sink is facing the hull anything tossed off has a 50/50 chance of harming the cook.

You might consider removable fiddles or sea rails for when secure dockside.
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The Sink is athwartship, the range is facing away from the hull so I think the risk is minimal since the range wouldnít have a fiddle anyway.
She has stabilizers that are super effective so even roll is uncommon but I certainly wouldnít plan on zero rolling motion.
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"I certainly wouldn’t plan on zero rolling motion."

Especially in an anchorage when a dummy goes past, and are more likely to be cooking.
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Agreed, but the stove has its own supports system so wasnít going to have fiddles anyways.
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On our previous boat I never installed fiddles on the galley counters after I remodeled. Our current boat has fiddles on the galley counters and will just leave them alone. BUT.... the I took a block plane to the ones on the table in the wheel house and cut them down to about 1/4" high. Fiddles are really tough on your arms while sitting at a table trying to eat, play cards, or work on the computer. Much better now.
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Greetings,
Mr. A. For this version, most certainly WITH the fiddle...
(S. Grappelli).

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Me thinks you meant 3cm vs 3mm quartz
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True, that would be rather thin
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We have a non stabilized boat, cruise in the open ocean, and do not have fiddles on the galley counter.

We have never had a problem, and I suppose that I would not like to be on theboat for long periods of time where conditions were so bad that stuff slid off the galley counter.
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Old 03-30-2018, 12:37 AM   #17
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It's tough to advise anyone on things like this, because we all boat in different conditions.


I wouldn't contemplate countertops without fiddles for a second, but they may be perfectly suitable for you.
I still clear everything off the counters on anything except the most calm days. It takes more than fiddles to contain things when it gets ugly out there.
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With stabilizers, they aren't really necessary. I've never missed them and we just use non skid under the things we don't want moving. If conditions are nasty enough that stabilizers and non skid don't cut it, fiddles aren't likely to be of much use.
Same here. We have no fiddles on the galley counters, and non-skid under pretty much everything to prevent sliding around.

And either way, I wouldn't want teak fiddles. I think water would eventually get under them, lift the finish, leave dark stains, and look like crap.
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Old 04-03-2018, 08:11 PM   #19
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Final decision is no fiddles, installing 2cm quartz (Stellar by Pental I believe), with a flat polished edge. Will post picts once complete (end of April)
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